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- January 25, 2025 at 9:30 am EST #420305
Verena
ParticipantHi, there is another question that I am not getting out of my mind. The way I understand it, our emotions, and even thoughts are kind of „operated“, by our desires, from above… and the freedom we have is how, during experiencing all we do, we direct our intention. Is that correct? And then… with all the pain that people inflict upon themselves or others, I understand itś basically the same, is that correct? Now, what is the point of „freedom“ , the momentum of choice there?
And how does that apply to all the self-hatred people show? Take self-harming issues or like people who are treating their bodies in a harmful way or treating themselves with disrespect. I mean, basically thatś happening everywhere. What creates that immense lack of self-love? Why do people hate themselves in terms of spirituality?Thinking of desires, I understand, why people may hate others…but how does a desire hate itself? . Why would a desire try to destroy the body and mind itś using, or be dysfunctional? An what is the lesson to learn? (I am not talking about psychodynamics, I know it´s complex, but as to the spiritual purpose of it, I feel a bit lost to understand).
- January 25, 2025 at 11:38 am EST #420324
Gianni – KabU Instructor
ModeratorIt only seems that way, that people don’t love themselves enough. It’s precisely intense self-love in the moment, but for me, in the desire I am right now, to receive maximally, and not to care for some future state, someone’s predictions about what might be good later or something like that. Now, exactly in this later, is the ego, the Klipa that gives me this sense of time, that I can always do what I need to do, later. It’s program is to ensure I’m eaten by worms before I attain spirituality, one day at a time, one moment at a time, until the dirt piles are thrown on my coffin. For now, I’m fine, busied with this and that. Will tomorrow be different? It’ll be the same, for different reasons.
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- January 25, 2025 at 12:45 pm EST #420336
Verena
ParticipantThank you so much, now that makes really sense… of course… itś such a pity, but yes, now I get it. Anyways, the fact that the ego prefers worms to spirituality… is that because the ego is afraid of spirituality, as spirituality might mean death to the ego? Does it go that far?
- January 25, 2025 at 12:56 pm EST #420337
Gianni – KabU Instructor
ModeratorIt all turns out well for everyone in spirituality. The ego is just doing its job. It’s help against you, so you will have free choice.
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- January 25, 2025 at 7:38 am EST #420301
Verena
ParticipantHi Gianni, I have got a question about what we actually are. The way I understood it, we are all desires, clothing in bodies for a lifetime, over and over again, for us to learn and develop. So, do we consist of just one desire, that we need to develop throughout all corrections, like one branch that needs to find its way back to the root, or is it more like we are a rope that consists of many strings, each string a desire, and we have to correct all the different desires?
- January 25, 2025 at 11:29 am EST #420322
Gianni – KabU Instructor
ModeratorI don’t know how old you are, but if you met yourself 20 years ago, 30 years ago…or when you’re 90 and look back on everything, how much do you think you’ll identify with the girl you were at age 5, 15, 35? I know what you want to ask, but you see that even in the span of this life, many different desires sit in the drivers seat for a time.
- January 24, 2025 at 6:37 am EST #420129
Brett
ParticipantAre there any BB information channels, online communites or 10s that exist outside of the Meta (WhatsApp & Facebook) ecosystem ?
- January 24, 2025 at 8:55 am EST #420235
Gianni – KabU Instructor
ModeratorI think our grad class tens use Telegram.
- January 23, 2025 at 5:21 pm EST #420096
Verena
ParticipantI am currently reading „disclosing a portion“. Itś so intriguing to get a first insight into the forces behind the names :-))) Anyways, just a small question: Hagar and Ishmael, do they belong to the left line? Thatś how understood it… however, in the book, I find it a bit confusing, so I thought I better ask (I don`t want to get left and right mixed up right at the beginning:-))
This is one passage: („Abraham has the Klipa (shell/peel) of the right, Hagar and Ishmael, and the Klipa of the left, Isaac and Esau, with whom we attain the middle line, Jacob, at the conclusion of the process of correction“)
And this is the other passage („To scrutinize the desire called “Isaac,” we must first remove the desire with which we cannot work and sort it with another female, with Hagar, from whom comes Ishmael, the Klipa (shell/peel) of the right.“)
- January 23, 2025 at 10:35 pm EST #420103
Gianni – KabU Instructor
ModeratorBoth the Right Line and the Left Line have their own Klipa. So, there’s the Klipa of the Right Line, and the Klipa of the Left Line. There is a corrupt form of each side, and a correct form.
- January 24, 2025 at 3:09 pm EST #420252
Verena
ParticipantHi, thank you, thatś intriguiging, though I am not quite there yet 🙂 Is Hagar and Ishmael relating to klipa in general or do they belong t either left or right side?
- January 24, 2025 at 3:31 pm EST #420253
Gianni – KabU Instructor
ModeratorKlipot of the Right
- January 23, 2025 at 10:32 am EST #420069
Verena
ParticipantHi Gianni, as I keep reading, trying to understand the structures and forces governing us, I see more and more that it is about feeling all this, rather than grasping it cognitively. And I am getting why working with this actively with others snd for others and together is so important. However, so far all I could find about about the practical work is- teacher, books, group- so the “frame” of the work. But I couldn’t find anything about how to practically DO the work. Are there any resources on that? Or how is it taught or passed on practically? Or is it more like trial and error for the group to find out?
- January 23, 2025 at 12:01 pm EST #420075
Gianni – KabU Instructor
ModeratorThere are 7 volumes of Rabash writings, especially the first volume, which tell us everything we have to do. And in the graduate program we simplify this more, and get very specific.
- January 23, 2025 at 5:03 pm EST #420093
Verena
ParticipantHi,I understand that in our practical work we have to learn to scrutinize our desires to see with which we are already able to work, and that those that are „too strong“ we may have to put unto hold and not use (like the pillar of salt), but there are also such that can be or should be expelled. I understand the idea to put things onto halt, and not try and correct a desire that I am too weak to resist (not practically, yet, but just from what I read). But How is it possible to expel a desire? Will it be gone then? I thought, in terms of physics energy cannot leave the system… well, even if it is a big system… So where does the energy of this desire go, when it is expelled? Or is that another form of just waiting, until one is strong enough to deal with it?
- January 23, 2025 at 5:19 pm EST #420094
Gianni – KabU Instructor
ModeratorWorking with desires, for now, practically means awakening the Point in the Heart, and because it is hard to awaken yourself and easy to awaken yourself by awakening others, we have to awaken ourselves by awakening others. This is the main work with the spiritual group. You thus elevate the importance of the spiritual rather than lowering the other desires. So, they don’t go away but are dwarfed.
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- January 23, 2025 at 2:55 pm EST #420085
Verena
ParticipantThank you so much, I am looking very forward to the journey, and happy to read in the Rabash resources :-))))
- January 22, 2025 at 3:37 pm EST #420015
Zorica Kostadinovska
ParticipantHi Gianni,
Guide me please; we know that unity as one man with one heart between all people is crucial for survival of the world as we know it. I believe that statement is much more clear to the Kabbalists, than to regular people like me, although I do see its merits only maybe not so pressing or clear as it is to them.
So, why do we see all kinds of Kabbalistic schools, movements, organizations that haven’t set an example for the rest of the people by uniting as one man with one heart themselves? Why are the Kabbalists still divided?
Thank you in advance!
- January 22, 2025 at 7:56 pm EST #420025
Gianni – KabU Instructor
ModeratorYou have to be a Kabbalist to identify one. It only seems that there are many.
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