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I hope this is ok to jump in, Katrina our ten just watched lessons 38 and 39 on how to run a workshop. It was extremely beneficial and it explains how to work internally with the ten and externally with the ten. Here is the link to the first lesson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ie9D8Lx5U&list=PLA7_REXRV4QhqGNnsHHmAtJmUntDV0JiX&index=21&t=1010s
I highly recommend you watching it.
Yes, that guide is the first 20 articles of Rabash, which we go through the essence of, in the Young Group. But basically, the currency between you is greatness of the spiritual goal. Every word should evoke this.
You’re right that it’s complex because the correction of these relationships leaves one with nothing else to be done in one’s lifetime here.
Hi Gianni,I have got a question about how to direct my commitment towards going to the retreat correctly. I don’t feel any resistance to go. It’s the opposite- I really WISH to go. I really wish to experience the retreat fully, physically . And that desire is totally confusing me. Because at the same time this wish seems totally egoistic and irresponsible considering kids, work, finances.
Now, what is the right intention when making such a decision? I thought if it’s about being there for my friends, it would be good to do what most of my ten does… which is to go virtually… and so I registered for that. But it feels like being there only half-way…. Plus, one member of out ten plans to attend physically. So, I still don’t feel what’s the right thing here.
Hi Gianni
for the degree of coarseness, a couple of questions
1. is it correct that I will become more self-love(scary!) before I can start to be corrected? is that a necessary step in order for me to reach this desperation for correction? and actually it’s a constant spiral? I get worse then I elevate, I get even worse then I elevate again?
2. within the 10, we will probably understand each others behavior(hopefully) and work together, but I imagine this will bring negative impacts to my daily life? how do I minimize that corporeal life impact, as obviously I want to change to be better not to be worse, not just spiritually but also for my corporeal life. not sure if I make sense to you.
thanks!
Hi Gianni, probably my questions did not make much sense, is that why it’s not answered yet? basically I am asking while our desire to bestow grows, our desire to receive all grow at the same time correct? how do I manage myself so my desire to receive won’t affect my loved ones(friends and families) while I continue to use it to build the Kli in spiritual work? thanks!
Hi Helen,
Sorry, I just missed your question.
No, your desire to receive is only revealed. A regular person has an ego that is not revealed so it’s like cancer that hasn’t been diagnosed. It’s causing you harm big-time, but for now you think everything’s great.
This is called “revelation of evil,” meaning the revelation of all that is in me, and is actually destroying all the good in the world. It happens in a way that a person realizes that it was always there but I was unaware of it, like one who has never looked in a mirror suddenly sees their face is dirty.
I think I am a bit lost here…I thought we were to grow the Kli, which is the will to receive but the difference is to use this desire in the direction of bestowing. What does it mean to “grow the Kli”? it means to grow the desire to receive, to receive what? to receive the reforming light from the Creator, not for my own benefit, but to please the creator. so far on right track? if so, will my corporeal desire in daily life also grow on parallel? how do I minimize that corporeal impact? by be more aware of my increasing desires and then control it? it sounds like you are saying my egoist desire will not grow, it’s already at it’s full potential but I am just not seeing it clearly yet?
sorry if you have already answered my question but it am not getting it.
I don’t mind answering many times because it takes time to internalize. It’s like a piece of furniture in the house which I no longer notice: it’s truly like it’s not there. This way, I have very large things in me I don’t even know are there but when I get to know them, I’ll see that they were always there. Or a dark room in which I only see the furniture when a candle is lit. Or I start seeing the furniture but only with a stronger light I see the dirt on it.
So, the desire to receive, we already have. It gets revealed a bit at a time. The spiritual desire is outside me, in the friends. To the extent that I can grow it, in the spiritual group, the desire to receive in me can be revealed and corrected – revealed to the extent that I can correct it, so that it won’t be like placing an obstacle in front of a blind person.
So it’s a matter of perception, whether we say the desire to receive in me has actually grown – because I used to think I was clean and a mirror is held up which shows me otherwise and although I now see that I was always so, nevertheless I now feel dirty and not clean. Or like the emperor who is the only one who doesn’t know he has no clothes, but it’s not the same knowing I’m naked vs. not knowing. So it’s all depends if a person prefers to live a lie – which is better if I don’t want to correct myself – or reveal the truth and correct myself. It will all be corrected when one can’t tolerate lies anymore, and that day will come – but some prefer to wait another day, another lifetime.
Hi Gianni,
So it seems one of my ten members went behind my back to try and get the ten to kick me out of the ten over a disagreement. It makes me feel very insecure in the ten. What if I am here for ten years and a month away from lishma and someone gets a bug up their but and tries to get me out of the ten and it works? Hardly an experience that gives me more confidence towards the goal. How should I look at this?
Hi Todd,
I don’t know the specific circumstances but generally we don’t expel members of a ten unless they are repeatedly breaking the rules of our society, and after mediation it’s clear that they are intent on disturbing the spiritual work of our other friends, and unwilling to consider that their approach is at odds with the teachings of Rabash, Rav, Baal HaSulam.
How to look at it? I would first, if it was me, consider how I may have been mistaken or should change, while also checking with the Arvut Team to mediate. They are very experienced friends with expertise in this, and you can trust their guidance.
Hi Gianni,
Seems like there is an excessive amount of an emphasis on feeling good in my ten. I know that Rabash says you want to give the friends good spirits. This seems more like a popularity thing we got going on than doing spiritual work. It’s like, this friend agrees with me so we have an alliance, or me and this friend get along so we will have a back and forth about how much we like each other and so on. It seems on one hand like a mutual admiration society first and foremost, where it is all about popularity and who likes who and maybe secondly we will get to the spiritual work. Where is the balance?
Dear Gianni,
In order to have fear that I will not be able to bestow, do I have to have at least a small vessel of bestowal, a small screen, at least an idea of what it means to bestow?
I have never been able to bestow. I don’t have this fear. Instead I have another sensation. I have been in deep darkness these past few days (same with the world kli) and now it feels like it’s going to lift a little bit, like I am about to receive another awakening from above, as it has happened many times before. I used to look forward to these “illuminations in the heart” but now I am dreading it, because of the acute awareness that it’s gonna go straight into my will to receive. It can’t go anywhere else – I have no screen, no vessel of bestowal, I will just take it an enjoy it intellectually or whatever and I don’t want this. I would rather not have it. I would rather stay in the darkness, cause here at least I have some awareness of what an incredible egoist I am. If I get the illumination, I will feel good and I will forget. I don’t know what to do and at this point it feels like I would rather go back to sleep than have this. What can I do?
Thank you ❤️
We come to fear through the work in the heart, and upon this work the Light works. So it’s upon us to cultivate this fear, and this is starting to build the Screen. It’s enough that its basis is the forms I know from Rabash are closer to bestowal, that I will look out for the friends spiritually, see their greatness and my loveliness, always add to what we had the day before, etc.
To the other question, I understand but we have to move forward always as this is the Creator’s will. So do it for Him and that’s even better.
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