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- April 20, 2024 at 3:29 pm EDT #369873VinceParticipant
Hi again, Gianni. Just wanted to leave you feedback on your book recommendation you gave me toward the end of last year. It was very insightful of you to tell me to read Attaining Worlds Beyond. It’s really clearing up even more fog as I keep reading it. Thanks again, means a lot.
- April 22, 2024 at 11:28 am EDT #370003Gianni – KabU InstructorModerator
Thanks, Vince. Everyone I know feels that way about that book. I’m glad it’s working for you.
- April 20, 2024 at 3:27 am EDT #369823RickiParticipant
How do i exit myself and live in the ten?
– Is this different to thinking of them throughout the day? Like returning to the friends (either in thought or action) every time despite the constant changing phases of life and the infinite arrangements in the world?
– My center of gravity should be inside the ten, but what part in me is being attracted and revolving around this center?
I’m stuck on this: No one can take care of my body and my responsibilities except for me, and i have to maintain this to survive and be healthy, so what part am i supposed to relinquish? I don’t see anyone else making choices for me. When i talk to people in general like at work, or I’m spending time with my partner, it’s my own lips, my own hands, my own mind that makes the words and the choices and the external actions. Sure I’m influenced by the environment, and so what environment i choose to be inside is a vital condition, but I still feel that I am the one driving this body.
– About advancement: am i progressing if the time/ the frequency between “departure” and “return” shortens? What about measuring progress by the magnitude, i.e. how much or how strongly i am caring?
– What does annulment have to do with “exit myself and live in the ten”?
- April 22, 2024 at 11:36 am EDT #370005Gianni – KabU InstructorModerator
Yes, I can measure by the rests and arrests toward the goal, by their frequency.
I understand it seems that if I’ll care for others or live in the ten that no one will take care of my body. We’ll see that we don’t change much on the outside. The revolution is on the inside. I still take care of and have room for and headspace for all that I need to take care of, but I develop a more expansive mind and heart, even a new mind and heart, and additional dimensions factor in.
That’s because I begin to feel life in the center of the ten where previously there was no life or existence. I start doing this by annulling what I can of my ego in favor of existing in thoughts of them.
- April 19, 2024 at 7:41 pm EDT #369812Kimadigital7Participant
.A few weeks ago, I was supposed to make a presentation for a gathering of friends, however, didn’t know it was my turn. So my friends reached out to me and reminded me and said that the meeting would start in 30 minutes. At that point, my thoughts were focused on them. Thinking about what to prepare for them. The feeling was tense.
1- Why would the Creator put me in that sort of situation where all my thoughts were about them?
2- what work can I do to always be in that kind of feeling and thought?
- April 22, 2024 at 11:38 am EDT #370006Gianni – KabU InstructorModerator
He would put me in thoughts of the ten to show me an example; afterwards, I need to do it on my own. From now on, my contact with Him is only examples I need to emulate.
- April 19, 2024 at 7:27 pm EDT #369808Kimadigital7Participant
I have been going through disturbances. At a point where I think that perhaps the Creator doesn’t want me to continue with this path. Because everything was rigid for me. I tried to think of my friends but to no avail. But I still kept on thinking about their spiritual growth. I kept struggling to be in the group.
As I was reading an excerpt from Rabash, a feeling popped up… For me to apply this commandment of, “Love thy friend as thyself,” I must know exactly what I want. I have been worried and wanting to know exactly what I want so that I can aim correctly. I feel restless.1- what work can I do to know exactly what I want so that I can work correctly? Because I am tired of just thinking about them. I want to feel it and making it their aim. I am tired of walking around the cycle. I want to know exactly what I want so that I can bestow to my friend.
- April 20, 2024 at 3:26 pm EDT #369872Gianni – KabU InstructorModerator
That’s for you to check. You can check this. Check what do I really want right now? You’ll see that you know but are usually not conscious of it.
- April 18, 2024 at 9:08 pm EDT #369719RickiParticipant
Please check my understanding of Klipa:
“Klipa are the desires which cannot be corrected. They originate from the sorting of the shattered desires and are the ones that are “impure”, i.e. cannot be used for bestowal. If a person cannot be driven from the path, then instead Klipa and Chariots are sent in order to obstruct the person. I feel Klipa as pains and suffering, and can be likened to an illness in one part of the body which effects all the other healthy parts of the body. Like an illness, it must be identified in order to “cure” it. What i mean by “to cure” here is to ascertain whether a desire is “for myself alone” or “aiming toward being closer to the creator”. ”In addition, here are some questions i wrote after this summary exercise. Can you please help me to answer these?
When it is not obvious, how do i know whether a desire is a Klipot or not?
When i do know, will the desire become quiet/ diminish i.e. i can move past it?
How is a klipot different from a chariot?
When in a situation where there is a klipot, how does this relate to or effect the intention?- April 18, 2024 at 9:50 pm EDT #369720Gianni – KabU InstructorModerator
Hi Ricki,
We’re not really in Klipot (shells) yet because a true Klipa is only against holiness, bestowal. And it’s that I want to now use the Creator; I want to use His quality in order to receive. We’re quite a few degrees before that. First I need to invest in the Kli (vessel) that spiritual Light can be revealed in, the friends in the ten. Whatever isn’t in this direction and isn’t otherwise necessary does not bring me closer to spirituality. While it’s not a Klipa per se, whatever doesn’t bring me closer to spirituality is the worst thing that can be, on our level.
- April 20, 2024 at 12:52 am EDT #369821RickiParticipant
Thanks Gianni for your reply. I felt frustrated with this answer and wrote a paragraph that helped me understand just a tiny bit more where i am relative to the friends and the path in general. I wish i could share these thoughts with someone but only if it is not at their expense. The problem is that I need guidance but who to turn to and how much to disclose is unclear. The paragraph I wrote basically amalgamated to the questions “What comes next? How do i know where i really am?”.
Thank you again for all that you do. - April 20, 2024 at 3:29 pm EDT #369874Gianni – KabU InstructorModerator
Turns out when I write to you students, you’re all asking the same question. We’re in a common state. You can check where you are by what you want each moment, which previously was unconscious. Making it conscious what I want and aim at is already a correction. Then you check that against the spiritual goal.
- April 16, 2024 at 1:53 am EDT #369324zeinabParticipant
Hi Gianni,
The below are excerpts from Dr. Laitman’s Blog ” Let’s go with the Light, Jan 2, 2011″
Therefore, we have two paths to the goal: pain or pleasure, “Beito” (in its time) or “Achishena” (ahead of time). But this doesn’t mean that we can walk the path of “Beito” and some day, at the right time, we’ll achieve the goal. No, it won’t work since to walk the path of “Beito” means that each moment brings me tremendous suffering so I may learn from it. Frankly, until now, that is exactly how we have been developing.
Of course, it isn’t an easy path. Nevertheless, when we acquire an anti-egoistic screen, and with its help can control our nature, the path becomes easy, pleasant, and short.”
Questions:
1- How do i develop the anti egoisic screen
2- How do i move from the path of “Beito” to the path of “Ahishena”?
Thank you
- April 18, 2024 at 7:53 pm EDT #369712Gianni – KabU InstructorModerator
1) That’s the whole wisdom. Because the Upper Light is in complete rest, we’re in it, but can’t feel it because we have no resistor. We’re open to reception, and thus cannot receive. We need to develop this resistor called the Screen.
2) Only through the friends can one accelerate their path.
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