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Sorry, there is one more thing, as I tried to understand more, I read about Shamati 23, where it says we should hate evil, I.e. the will to receive, meaning to understand this will to receive causes all the losses and meaning not to accept it. What is the right attitude and actions reflecting that one truly hates evil? In other words, how can I hate evil „correctly“?
That’s not simple. First, I need to see that I don’t not love myself, I actually love myself completely. Then, I can grow to understand the nature of the quality of self-love in me. Gradually, I start to hate it. This doesn’t mean I sit and reproach myself, but that I decide once and for all, not to use the Will to Receive for myself.
Dear Gianni,
My question is about Shamati 22, which was discussed in the morning and noon lessons today. I need some things to be further digested for me, because it’s giving me pain that I don’t understand it.
What does it mean that there is a judge and a judgement? What is this state where you have awareness of that? Isn’t this state achieved when you already have done something above reason? So then you can see how when you are working in bestowal you are progressing towards Dvekut and when you are working in reception, you are punished with separation. And then the awareness of judge and judgement comes. But what is the “learning that leads to action” before you have ever done even a single act above reason, before you are aware of the judge and judgement? The article makes it sound like if I study with the intention to grasp the awareness of judge and judgement within reason, then this is called Torah Lishma, but how can something be Lishma when it’s very goal is to fill the vessel of reason?
Thank you ❤️What does it mean that there is a judge and a judgement? What is this state where you have awareness of that?
Where the Creator’s laws are revealed. It’s a state after one behaves according to those laws, without proof they exist.
Isn’t this state achieved when you already have done something above reason?
Yes, you keep the laws without proof they exist.
But what is the “learning that leads to action” before you have ever done even a single act above reason, before you are aware of the judge and judgement?
“Learning that leads to action” as opposed to it remains for me as a science that’s only in the book.
The article makes it sound like if I study with the intention to grasp the awareness of judge and judgement within reason, then this is called Torah Lishma, but how can something be Lishma when it’s very goal is to fill the vessel of reason?
The result is the filling; that’s not the goal. We need to come to a clean intention.
Hi Gianni, I have got a question about descents…
It says”The benefit from the rejections is that through them a person receives a complete need and desire for the Creator to help him since he sees that otherwise he is lost”
When I feel the pain of a descent, how do I know when it is completed and when it’s been “enough” of this state to receive a complete need? How do I even know it is a true descent and what if it appears to pull me away from the creator , but it is not so much a spiritual thing? Adding to this, how and when do I responsibly share such a state with the friends without abusing their care and help and without running away from the lecture I have to learn? I understand there is no point dwelling in any state, but what should be my attitude when I recognize it? Is this an individual thing… because some people can bear more discomfort or pain than others before they cry out and some people need longer to share their pain with friends than others and some open up about weaknesses more easily than others? I feel the group of friends is such a treasure, and the creator IS revealing in them… so how to balance this properly in order not to confuse the friends or the work, not to contaminate this environment unnecessarily with any struggles and at the same time allow real connection which asks openness?
When I feel the pain of a descent, how do I know when it is completed and when it’s been “enough” of this state to receive a complete need?
When you cry from within your heart to the Creator to help.
How do I even know it is a true descent and what if it appears to pull me away from the creator , but it is not so much a spiritual thing?
Whatever pulls me away from the Creator is pulling me away from the Creator.
Adding to this, how and when do I responsibly share such a state with the friends without abusing their care and help and without running away from the lecture I have to learn?
There’s a place for sharing a deficiency related to the goal, but the overall ratio of deficiency to enlivenment should be 0.5 to 24.
I understand there is no point dwelling in any state, but what should be my attitude when I recognize it? Is this an individual thing… because some people can bear more discomfort or pain than others before they cry out and some people need longer to share their pain with friends than others and some open up about weaknesses more easily than others?
I haven’t heard anything like that from Kabbalists about each one sharing their pain. Can you show me that in a Rabash article? Each can share within the overall allotment for the ten of 0.5 to 24 deficiency to enlivenment. And the deficiency is a story of overcoming the deficiency.
I feel the group of friends is such a treasure, and the creator IS revealing in them… so how to balance this properly in order not to confuse the friends or the work, not to contaminate this environment unnecessarily with any struggles and at the same time allow real connection which asks openness?
Well, we can’t open up everything because there’s nothing good inside. Except the Point in the Heart, which is just a point of aspiration toward spirituality. So, all I really have to share with the friends is this aspiration.
Hi Gianni, Thanks for the answer and for taking the time, answer…it’s helpful…now helpful. Actually I am not relating to a Rabash article, it was more about what we learned in YG about descents that kind of confused me. For one thing I feel that „crying out from the bottom of the heart“ is hard to grasp…. Not that I don’t know such states. But how do I know it’s the bottom? I might fool myself and still have some pride left …so my cry would be like a child crying for a lolly and not for real help from the creator. I understood that there is no use crying out if it’s not a REAL deficiency- like that child that cries for a lolly and the mother ignores it it…whereas when the child cries because it really fell, the mother is really there to help and comfort. So, how to be aware of whether it’s a lolly-cry or a real cry? And how to let it be a real cry, if it is a descent, without dwelling in this state for too long? Because to pass through the states quickly and not dwell there longer than necessary was the next thing I took from the lesson.
And the other thing, which I called „sharing the pain“ was just meant to describe what to do in a low state, a descent that causes a deficiency. (I just used the wrong words, sorry, I didn’t mean a self-help group) … My question relates to the contradiction of keeping low states away from the friends versus overcoming a descent „through the group, through the friends “, including admitting onès weakness and clinging on to the friends ( that’s what I heard in the YG). So, that’s the point… I feel the friends, I want to be there for them , it’s an uplifting and real connection… a descent may pull me away from the group… or to disturb the group…it might be a point to share it or to hide it. I understood it’s no point staying away from the group, and I found friends to be quite sensitive for each othersˋ state. In general, I would be intuitive in this and try to feel the friends and the connection and ask the creator to help me in this… is there any way I can be more precise about it? Or is it better to just ignore it and keep going? And how do I keep a 0.5/24 ratio?
When your playing the game of greatness of the goal, when you have a deficiency, it’s shared with the friends in the form of your overcoming. It’s there. In this you give an impression both of the deficiency and the overcoming. In short, we don’t have expressions that are just-so, but always with some calculation. If I don’t add some artifice atop my regular state, well then I’m only lying by expressing the lie as I feel it rather than with some clothing of a truer state upon it. I need to at least add some movement toward he truth, to it.
Crying from the bottom of the heart, you’ll only know when you reach it. But to nag like a child with a half-desire is also welcome. That too is on the way to the one from the bottom of the heart.
Dear Gianni, This is really helpful… thanks so much… just one last additional question…I am not sure if I understood you correctly: does that mean that „A regular state“ I might be in , has actually to be considered a lie, because it’s a reflection of the will to receive and the trick would be to clothe it in the truth of „connection“, and the truth of „everything comes from above“… because this truth reaches further than any such lie? So, whatever might be in me, even or especially in a descent, I have to be careful or considerate to not let this lie, that forms my inner state, speak first?
Yes, this is why there’s no benefit in staying in a decent. Not to reflect, not to discuss. It doesn’t help. To bottle it up, and turn to the Light with it. I’m sorry if that’s the opposite we have in our society — this is of course only for those who are not mentally ill by corporeal medical standards.
I’d like to request an episode of Kabbalah Explained Simply to be about King David. I read about him sometimes in the Zohar, but there’s not much about him in our playlists. It would be cool if you could cover:
What is the spiritual root of “Goliath?”
Why is David in everyone, but Moses is not?
What exactly are all these battles David is doing?
Also, David seems to have a paradoxical relationship with the Creator and the posterior of the Creator. It seems like he is made to do forbidden things and then forgiven for them. What is the spiritual root of that dynamic, and what’s the proper attitude towards it? Is it similar to the concept of always striving to act in bestowal in the next moment, but trying not to regret the last moment because it was the Creator who controlled it?Hi Logynn,
We’ve done 2 around this topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiJ9OsfFKKQ&t=702s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyEQD6_T4U0&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_auoRE49WGw
Also, if you go here and search for David, there’s a lot. https://laitman.com/blog/
Hi Zorica,
I don’t know of any instructors going to Hungary. The English Department will be in Pennsylvania, U.S.
Can you tell me how I join the morning classes with the Rav? I know nothing about these or how to attend or find them on line?
Hi Marlaina,
Until you’re in a ten and can access the Arvut platform, you should be able to watch here at 8pm EST: http://kab.tv/eng#/playlist
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