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Concerning connection and love of friends
Should we also be thinking if our friends love us/me or we should just focus on loving the friends?
I need to think that only I need to love the friends, and not that they should love me. How they relate to each other and to me, I need to see as prompts for me to pray for my own inner change in everything in which I see a flaw in the love of friends.
If my friends are my other vessels, and if I see a flaw amongst my friends, for example, He speaks for too long or maybe he think he knows too much, are these flaws? Where do I place the correction? Or my friends are just like a mirror to attaining adhesion with the Creator?
I don’t know if i formulate the question well.
Whenever I am filled with joy I see my friends all fall away from me, and they avoid joining in our activities. When I am facing a mountain of obstacles and I force myself to connect I see they are in joy. Why is there such an imbalance, and is there something I can do to not be in an opposite state from my friends?
Lately I am overflowing inside with joy, but my friends who are feeling no taste or pleasure are desperate to feel joy. I can’t pass any of my joy onto my friends.
Is the Creator waiting for my next fall to bring them joy?
Hi Patricia,
No, we shouldn’t make such calculations. First of all, I can’t really tell what my friends’ states are. Do I already know what spiritual attainment looks like on the outside? You can’t tell. But, as I wrote to the friend above, however the friends appear to me I can nevertheless use as the fulcrum for prayer that I will see them in a perfect, connected state. Their state, in short, is exactly what I need to ask for, and to think about my spiritual state as little as possible, almost not at all.
From Shamati 25:
“As long as he has no power to sentence the world to the side of merit, they subdue him, he mingles with their desires, and he is led like sheep to the slaughter.”
What is sentencing the world to the side of merit, and how to (keep) do(ing) this?
He has to think of everyone as in a corrected state, but “They have eyes and do not see.” And yet he has to live with them in the state that they appear to him. If he can include everyone in this end state, the corrected state, then he is qualitatively more influential than all the people and thoughts in the world.
If I lost and sacrificed so much for 20 years (I’m 35) of my short life on every path possible to get to the truth of everything I ever wanted to know and became depressed along the way up until this point, yet still feel like I’ve just entered another lie and learned recently I shouldn’t even be here because of past depression then why should I continue if the Creator led me this far just to tell me I’m rejected here as well?
I’ve Tried asking the Creator but I’m not getting anywhere for half a year now.
Hi Vince,
It’s possible you’re right, and it’s possible you made an incorrect inference based on hearsay. You said “past depression.” If one is depressed now, he needs to look after his mental health first. Any serious spiritual path requires a foundation of mental health. There are professionals who handle this medically and therapeutically.
As for being here for a year and a half – this isn’t learning how to ride a bike. This is ascending above this world, and all the feelings and sensations in it, holding all of that, but ascending above it. It’s not simple, but it is up to the student, and the judgement is within the person. Did he really give 100% each moment. After the required exertion, he succeeds.
“125 degree”; is the number here referring to a quality rather than a literal quantity of steps? How was this number derived? and how or what can i follow along with (like the proof to an equation) to better relate to/ understand the meaning behind this phrase?
p.s. thank you for your hard work, I seriously appreciate your effort and care toward us.
This concept of annulment before friends is something we can’t do by ourselves. Very difficult concept. I’ve come to realize that only the Creator can help us exit self-love.
Please, Teach us how to pray. Because if the Creator does not help us to exit self-love, we won’t be able to help our friends and we won’t be able to come to the love of the Creator.
What should we do?
Why don’t you ask? He’s awaiting every request. Ask for everything you can. You’ll always get an answer, a change, a correction. It’s just that we stop asking because to ask Him is the most alien thing to the ego.
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