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    Gil
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    • #302720
      Lyndon
      Participant

      Dear Instructor,

      FAO Seth,

      Re :  Sep 27, 2022 – Pticha- Lesson 12 | A Sage Speaks

      You said about half-way through that the outer light and inner light always add up to 100%.  The example you were giving was with a notional 20% accepted into the vessel and the rest 80% rejected. I get that your example is just to get the idea across of the ‘lights’.

      My question is.  If you have a limitless light / light without end, the exact instance that a tiniest amount of that infinitude of light [no matter how small] enters into the vessel then the infinitesimal light that enters does so without end in the vessel too.  You can’t subtract from infinity as much as you cannot add to it.  So, although I get the idea to some extent, I can’t get out of this paradox.

      Second question, when Rob read Item.39, ‘by the clash of surrounding light and the inner light . . . because the clash of surrounding light refined the ending screen. . . . ‘  is the ‘clashing’ here referred to as detected by me as ‘Malchut-Lyndon’ as the beauty in nature the memory of the love from the Creator through the heavy gloom under the material sky that I can have some appreciation of? Just a thought.

      Wow, Rob has a great reading voice! what a treasure! Thanks Lyndon S

      • #302882

        You’re half right. In the Light, you have a taste of all the Light. However, the Light is always according to the Vessel. And so, you don’t taste all that is possible – everything is possible by the Light – but only what you have a Vessel for. By the same token, Eyn Sof doesn’t mean “infinite” – that’s just a math concept, we don’t really know what it is – Eyn Sof means that the Vessel is filled completely, without limit. In the Light there could be much more, but according to the Vessel it is unlimited because it is filled to the brim. It thus doesn’t feel any limit.

    • #302623
      Paul
      Participant

      On ” the path of thruth”, (Rabash article 13.) aiming to become like the Creator, we learn that we have to sort out our internal and external desires. In our mutual connection, what would our common screen look like?

      • #302639

        It looks like Arvut, mutual guarantee – that If I let go of the friends, I let go of the Creator, and I reveal the state of a shattered Screen.

    • #302502
      Lyndon
      Participant

      Dear KabU Grad Environment,

      Re. Sep 22, 2022 – Rosh HaShana

      I posted this question FAO Mike Kellogg on the 30-Sept-22 but since been told Mike doesn’t really reply to questions so can you help with a reply?  Thanks Lyndon >

      The lesson this week focused on the quality of ‘love’ being something completely outside the will to receive and presently beyond us.

      I have been thinking a lot about what exactly the term ‘Love thy friend as thy self’ means and have the following questions:

      1)   what does the term ‘friend’ actually mean? is this the exclusion of all those who you do not term as being a friend.

      2)   does the term ‘friend’ just mean the rest of humanity regardless of their relationship to you whether the individual is indeed a friend or enemy, foe, somebody you distrust/ dislike etc regardless

      3)   if the term friend means the rest of humanity/ all people would it be better to say “love all beings else as thy self”?

      4)   If we take it that the term friend means everybody in the world I don’t know whether I would ever be able to come to terms with that. I mean, with such dreadful things in the world done at the hands of man it would be very difficult for me to love such people let alone those who are considered as being friends.

      thank you ever so much. Lyndon.

      • #302519

        1)   what does the term ‘friend’ actually mean? is this the exclusion of all those who you do not term as being a friend.

        The Kabbalists explain, a friend means a friend on the same spiritual path as you. It’s like Mendeleev’s table – you can’t combine whatever you want there, some are not amenable to the combination. People too are different qualities and weights (Aviut). You can unite with those who “float to the surface”, to the wisdom of Kabbalah. They’re not totally weighed down by the Will to Receive of this world, but at least somewhat incline to ascend upward to the quality of the Creator. That’s why they “happen” to find Kabbalah and that’s why I can call them friends.

        2)   does the term ‘friend’ just mean the rest of humanity regardless of their relationship to you whether the individual is indeed a friend or enemy, foe, somebody you distrust/ dislike etc regardless

        See above

        3)   if the term friend means the rest of humanity/ all people would it be better to say “love all beings else as thy self”?

        No, I can’t love all beings yet. We have nothing in common. There’s an order to the correction like there’s an order to the formation of organs in the womb. First, there is the Rosh, which is why Israel is Li-Rosh (“I have a head”). Those who are inclined to the spiritual goal are this avant-garde that I can connect with. Through this order, eventually, all of humanity gets included.

        4)   If we take it that the term friend means everybody in the world I don’t know whether I would ever be able to come to terms with that. I mean, with such dreadful things in the world done at the hands of man it would be very difficult for me to love such people let alone those who are considered as being friends.

        According to the above, you’re correct. But later, it will all be covered with love, and all pain will be inverted, to pleasure. As it is written, “Love covers all crimes.”

    • #302115
      Paul
      Participant

      I am getting more and more curious about the point of free choice, the middle third of Tifferet. Quote from Rav in one of his blogpost:

      ” What is my independence and where can I find it?

      I have to find out what my dependence is, who or what do I depend on, and what depends or does not depend on me. It’s possible that I am independent or not, and I have to or don’t have to agree or disagree with it. After making all the analyses of my state, I discover that I am outside of the Creator.

      This is possible because the Creator is expressed as the influence of two forces upon me: positive and negative, right and left. That is why there is a state between us where they neutralize each other like the field between two magnets.

      I am in the neutral zone. The right line is the force of bestowal, while the left line is the force of reception, and I am between them. I am influenced by two forces, yet at the same time I am not influenced by anything. Their neutralization is inside of me. That is to say, on one hand the Creator exists and these two forces influence me, but they influence me in such a way that I do not feel their influence on me because they neutralize each other inside of me.

      So on one hand, “There is none else besides Him,” but on the other hand, “If I don’t do it for myself, who will do it for me?” This neutral state is called the middle part of Sefira Tifferet. If I find this state, then it is the basic point from which I personally determine what I prefer: the right, bestowing, or the left, receiving, direction for my development.

      (…) This is why a special point of the Creator wakes up in us. We develop it in opposition to our egoistic nature. “A point of desire” against “a point of Light,” they both emerge as a result of the breaking. By correcting a connection between them, we independently achieve similarity to the Creator. Without this “tool,” we wouldn’t be born and become equal to the Creator.”

      In an earlier question abou this topic Gianni answered, that we do not have the tools yet, to exert free choice. Above, the tool(s) again is mentioned (without which we wouldn’t be born).

      So, my simple  question is: what specifically is this tool and what craftmanship is needed to use that tool?

      P.s. And can you clarify about the Klipat Noga, as it refers to this question? Thanks in advance.

      • #302204

        The tool to deal with this is the spiritual Screen. That means that I can be above all the forces. And I see that the forces of bestowal and reception are equal and I’m the deciding factor between them.

        Since I live inside my own desires I only have one force – reception. We’re in the business of creating the other place from which to decide – from within the group. The more I invest there, the more there’s a field outside me that I belong to. We just haven’t made enough investment there to have a feeling of it. It’s a concept. But not a place that has real existence.

    • #301141
      Joanne Kabu-W10
      Participant

      Hi Gil, Zohar and Gianni, A friend in our Ten had a unique way of scrutinizing a Rabash article in our last meeting.  She mentioned that it was a lesson watched in WPOL with Marcos sometime in June.  I need your help in finding  this record class. Its title was something like, Scrutinizing for Connection with subtitles, advice, principles, definitions, process or questions. It was so interesting our Ten wanted to watch the original lesson.

      Also Zohar mentioned if we had any topic ideas to let him know.  So I would love to know more about scrutinizing an article in order to ask Rav a proper question.  Maybe a workshop on how to ask questions appropriately would be helpful in our future.  Thank you, thank you, thank you for all that you do to help us on our journey. Much Love my Friends, Joanne YG-W6

      • #302205

        Best to keep Rabash as-is and talk about how to implement what he says in our ten, without any additions. The whole attainment of the Upper World is there in the Rabash articles, in realizing them at the simplest level. If we’ll approach his advice as babies do, that will be the most advanced approach possible.

    • #301127
      Xavier M
      Participant

      Hello friends, I just joined (re-joined?) the graduate environment after a long hiatus, and I couldn’t be more excited to be here with you.

      I have a question about the last Grad Class with Mike Kellogg on Sep 29, 2022 – Crown the King Over Us. Mike said: “Spiritual love is that I exist only in the thoughts, desires and aspirations of the friends.”

      My question is, how can I do that? It sounds like the I can’t do it and like it depends entirely on the friends. If so, what is there for me to do in this work? Is it to ensure that only the friends exist in my thoughts, desires and aspirations?

      I also have a question about logistics – when/how can I join a 10? Looking forward to seeing many of you on Sunday.

      Love,

      Xavier

      • #301146

        Dear Xavier, Mike received your question and will provide you with an in depth answer this at the start if this Thursday’s lesson.
        See you there.

      • #301136

        Hi Xavier,

        You’ll get a ten when the next young group starts, which is soon.

        You’re right, you need to ensure that you start forming a new place in your brain and heart where the friends can dwell. You’re not using this space right now, so it’s available. You have to develop it. This is developing the vessel in which the Upper World is revealed. For now, I have the senses in which only the world I’m seeing now can be revealed.

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