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    • #218968
      BEN
      Participant

      Gar de Binah and Zat de binah says that we can not bestow unless we receive. I know the spritual concepts can not be understood well in the corporeal but loosely does this mean that we have to feel the needs of others totally as our own like in teshuvah? but how can we do this? If a friend hurts me, do i just forgive him and also feel his pain because as we know there is no one else but the Creator?

      secondly too is that in kabbalah, we keep on asking questions not just blind faith. how then are we so sure that what we are doing is right? and if we judge others as not authentic or not the right path, isnt it also egoism since we are told that each one is unique when the vessels shattered?

      • #219369

        GAR and ZAT de Bina…this is something unimaginably far from us. We need to feel the needs of others in the spiritual group, and specifically those needs of theirs for spirituality. Other than those needs, the rest are like going to try and feel the needs of a cow for grass or water. You need to integrate with the needs that are specifically for what the Upper Force wants to give.

        It’s certain that all are actions are incorrect. Like a ship that can’t travel directly but always against the wind in different diagonals, but in the generally right direction, which we can determine by learning and following the advice of Kabbalists. By this the Light works and corrects your trajectory. Certainly this includes not judging anyone who is on the path with you, it’s never of value that you’re lowering them by judging them, by this you’re only deleting a desire for spirituality that could have helped you elevate in a special way.

    • #183369

      Hello, i wish to know about the shattering of the v essels, in a broad manner, meaning that from those pieces material aspects of creation came into being, that includes everything in space not essentially saying that our existence is a sole one, that includes spiritual beings too, or am i mistaken.

      This structure of parzum or parzuf (not quite sure how it is written) is the mechanism by which we ascend as an unified soul, in a long chain of  glimpses of light shining in each block of GE-AHP above and below ones spiritual state?

      • #184357

        We only have what we reveal in our Kelim. And what we have is this world. We need to be very realistic about this. Because later we will reveal an Upper World. But we don’t have anything of that yet. We don’t even have a “glimpse” of the Light. When we connect with the others, the Shattered vessels, that are found in the group of Kabbalah students, because they belong to the part that is actually broken, to the Screen. The Point in the Heart is a part of this shattered Screen. It is what broke. And the reality is the manifestation of the Light experienced through this broken Screen. If we connect, inside the connection, we’ll see a new world, the same way we see this world that looks bad through the shattered connection.

    • #60426
      Duke Gard
      Participant

      Could you elaborate on what Dr. Laitman  says in the last related video: Discover Your Connection With Others? He speaks of love and hate having to be become greater as opposites of each other. Is he referring to the collective body of all people? Or is this something that is happening at an individual level?

      • #60428

        Hi Duke. In an individual. Each person has to have a society, a spiritual society, towards which he is working. He has to be towards them like the Creator is towards reality. That is, he has to try to think of them rather than about himself, since the Creator does not think about Himself. He has to try not to be indifferent to them, as the Creator thinks always about the wellbeing of the whole of reality. So, the student needs to do many exercises so that the Upper Force will work on him and make these changes in him. The exercises are not an end in themselves, rather a means to invite the Upper Force. Now, this Force also doesn’t fundamentally change what he is. We’re a Desire to Receive pleasure – and nothing besides. Therefore, that won’t change. This desire to receive, when it is in its current, inborn form, is called hatred of others. Usually, we are not even developed enough to identify it as such. It doesn’t reach hatred, but mere indifference to everyone who is unrelated to different forms of self-benefit that could come to my desire. And again, this nature won’t change, it’s going to stay. Except for one thing. A new thing is born atop this desire, called Kavana/Intention. And through this intention it is deemed that I enter equivalence of form with the Creator. And I find out that only the direction of the desire determines my entire perception of reality – whether I’ll perceive this imaginary dream world, or be born into the spiritual world. It is revealed in one birth into it, like a baby born from the womb into a brand new world; and then it is attained more and more. Each time, it’s revealed more by starting with hatred/self-interest/indifference towards others or the Creator, and then covering it with a greater love. This is the spiritual path. And even before this process there are many stages of a similar process, prior to spiritual birth. That’s why I need a Kabbalistic group to measure myself with, to what extent I’m in passion, indifference, or hatred towards the spiritual process.

        • #60466
          Duke Gard
          Participant

          Gianni,

          Thank you. I was hoping you’d elaborate on something else. A passage on page 48 of the Kabbalah Science and the meaning of life. Here is the passage:

          The wisdom of Kabbalah explains that all that exists around us is the Upper Light in a state of complete stillness, and all the changes and the endless possibilities are inside us. All that we see is the reflection of ourselves in the fixed, unchanging Light.

          For me, this passage needs some unpacking.

          Specifically, “the endless possibilities are inside us”; how could this be?  If the spiritual world affords endless possibilities, is it even possible for human intellect to understand this concept? If it isn’t through my mind/intellect, how will I gain an understanding of the endless possibilities?

          Thanks again for the previous response. I’m trying to process this new material, I might be over thinking it.

           

        • #60471

          Hi Duke,

          You’re right that one can’t understand with the intellect. Not really. Because, look, our mind is a product of the world around us. Our language too: descriptions of the world we inhabit. We don’t inhabit the Upper World. It’s utterly concealed from our senses. So, no language exists in our vocabulary in any language that can describe the Upper World. But generally speaking, the Endless World means that all reality is your desire. Yours. What you see, what you don’t see yet. And it’s all for you. You also don’t feel what’s before you as an endless world, full of abundant possibilities to enjoy, fulfilling the goal of Creation, which was to delight the Creature. But it has to be enjoyed in a different way. In a form called Receiving in Order to Bestow, so that we, the receivers, would not be in an opposite form to the Creator, whose quality is bestowal, but that we would both receive and achieve the main goal, which is Equivalence with Him – since nothing is better than that. So, there is a process, long but worth it, of inverting our pure Will to Receive, first to Restrict it, then turn it to Bestow in order to Bestow, and later, finally, to receive in order to bestow. It’s a great adventure, in and of itself. But it’s all in feeling, not mind. Your mind is a product of your feeling in your current five senses. And your spiritual mind has to also be a product of your feeling (which you don’t have yet, not of the spiritual world). You can’t grasp anything of it with the mind that developed in you out of the experiences of our world. You have to start with a Point, which has no volume, a black point, that is the beginning of the spiritual sense. You have to develop it, very consciously and with purpose, strength and dedication. This happens through the Reforming Light that one draws in the study of the wisdom of Kabbalah – to more and more absorb materials by those who experienced the Upper World and wrote to us from there – especially Baal HaSulam and Rabash, as well as all kinds of exercises they give. This is the method we provide here at KabU.

    • #58594
      ~marz
      Participant

      Dear Teacher,

      I have a question regarding connection/environment.  I do not personally know anyone who studies “authentic” Kabbalah but as I live in CA, should I be connecting with local Kabbalah Centers & students? From what I have learned so far, those here all wear red strings, and focus on numerology & meditations – from what I have learned so far via KabU – this is not the correct way. Do I still join and hold the belief it will correct itself via the process/method or do I choose to align myself only to KabU teachers & students. If the latter is the case, can you help me understand how this is not a cult-like mentality? I think my ego is in a state of panic 😉

       

      • #58606

        Hi Marla,

        I think you answered your own question. Study wherever you want, it is written, “one studies where the heart desires.” So, you have to check, not every place, but where your heart desires, and once you’ve done your check, that you felt it is the right place, the closest to the truth, you glue yourself to that place and only that place. If you have a Point in the Heart that is strong, then since that Point actually fell down from the Upper World that the Kabbalists are writing about, and because there, in truth, is not more than one method, rather Kabbalists write the opposite, that the way is along a “very narrow bridge”, it’s an invisible bridge one has to walk according to careful following of a specific method with a specific guide…so if your Point in the Heart is pronounced, it has a sense of where the truth is, the truth being that method it senses can lead it back to the root it belongs to in the Upper World. If that Point is not really ripe, then, in any case, it is not seeking such a direct method, which leaves no icons, jewelry, rituals to hold onto in this world and let the person feel that he is succeeding by them. And they too should study where their heart desires.

        • #58612
          ~marz
          Participant

          Gianni, thank you for validation and support.

          very best wishes!

    • #58590
      Paul
      Participant

      From  (recommended reading) the Nature of Matter, page 36:

      Only now begins the  formulation of the matter that makes up our world. From this stage onwards, from the broken will to receive,  begins the historic evolution of the material world we are familiar  with. Once the universe has been created, the still (inanimate),  vegetative, and the animate degrees are made, and following them,  the speaking (human) degree is formed (figure 5).

      Is  this speaking about the worlds of assiyah (made) and yetzira (formed). Would that be,on the evolving ascent in the spiritual worlds, leading  to  briah (created) and finally atziluth (emanated)?

      But since  we are in the material, corporeal world still,  is the above mentioned speaking degree referring to the psyche, (in the world of yetzirah)  expanding the point in the heart to  the creation (beriah) of the reconnected soul, which was eminated in the beginning (atziluth)?

      • #58607

        Hi Paul,

        Those Still, Vegetative, Animate and Speaking are truly the ones we are familiar with in our world. Except that to Kabbalists, we are not yet on the speaking degree and have nothing from it in us. Our thoughts and desires and dreams – all that we have belongs to the animal degree. Dolphins also talk, and so do trees and other species. Emanating some communicative substance or sound is not called speaking in the language of Kabbalah. That refers to a spiritual state already. And once I reach the first degree of spirituality I start-over this development of 4 Phases, but on the spiritual degrees, and yes they correspond to the 4 worlds Assiya, Yetzira, Beria, Atzilut. What I do have from the Upper World, which animals do not, is a single black Point called the Point in the Heart. First it is buried beneath the animal desires for many incarnations, and then it surfaces, demanding realization.

    • #58240
      Danielle Vergonet
      Participant

      Hi there,

      I find a few things of this lesson a bit confusion.
      1. In the video of Marcos last week i heard: when you do kabbalah your desires are gettings les, they come into place.
      2. In studie of kabbalah introduction I read: when you do kabbalah your ego is going to be stronger. Your desires are becoming stronger.
      3. This was I quiz answer of kabbalah in action: A Kabbalist  is a result of his/her ability to Connect to the Desires  of others above their Ego

      So i find it a bit confusing. How do I need to see this? When you studie kabbalah your ego is becoming stronger so you can develop better? But on the other side you earthy desires are getting less?

      • #58608

        Hi Danielle,

        You can think of this in different ways. It depends how deeply we scrutinize it. You can say that the desires of this world are less pronounced, but that’s not quite true. Actually, they grow. It’s just that the Point in the Heart, which is the desire for the spiritual world, which is above this world, is in opposition with the desires of this world. Because the Point in the Heart fell from the Upper World, and the Upper World is exalted, swallows this entire universe in its measure of sublimity and importance and works in the opposite direction, towards qualities of the Creator. So, your regular desires remain, like you still somehow could enjoy, say, sitting and building a sand castle like when you were a child – but there are other desires that, because of their importance, cover this desire, even to the point that you don’t feel it in you anymore. You got more mature desires. Now there are desires that are more mature than all the pursuits there are in this world. Everyone will develop to this level eventually, and they will then wonder how they could waste time doing all kinds of things of this life. Of course, after the initial awakening of the Point in the Heart, this desire, like the desires of our world are grown through the influence of society, one needs a spiritual society, a group of others who also have the Point in the Heart, to help grow this desire to the sufficient magnitude to realize it.

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