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    • #393389
      Jacques Toulemonde
      Participant

      Hi! So if equivalence of form rules the spiritual objects, which in turn, rule the material world, and there’s just two things: the Creator and the Created, that explains that everything is kind of the same, has the same qualities, meaning and purpose, but in different ratios. Am I understanding correctly? In other words, this explains why the infinitely big looks the same as the infinitely small, or “as below, so above”. The only problem is that we cannot see it because of the limitations of our perception, right?

      • #393537

        Jacques,
        All the problem is in our perception, which was made this way so that we would feel our existence and now our work is to correct that perception so that we can perceive the whole, integral reality that we are currently in.
        Seth@KabU

    • #393282
      Natu
      Participant

      I understand that through Kabbalah, we learn how to refine our spiritual vessels and expand our perception of reality. However, even as we grow spiritually, it can still be challenging to connect with people who are constrained by their own limited perspectives. People naturally gravitate toward those who are similar to them, which makes forming deeper connections difficult when you’re on a path of spiritual growth. In fact, many people not only limit themselves but also try to impose those limitations on others. So, what can we do?

      • #393359

        Natu,
        When you look back on your high school friends, you probably don’t spend a lot of time with most of them anymore. At the time, you all sat together 8 hours a day five days a week.  Today you have different things going on in your life.
        It’s normal that we drift apart from people as our life changes and as our interests change.
        However in this situation, it is not good to isolate yourself, you should maintain connection with the people at work and with your family, neighbors, if you play a sport or music, it’s good to stay connected with some people.  Of course as your interests change it is not as natural to connect with others who are talking about the weather and the headline news or sports as you are thinking and interested in the meaning of life, but we don’t want to isolate ourselves from society.
        On the other hand, as you continue your study, you will have the opportunity to connect with and work with other students who like you are yearning for the meaning of life.
        Seth@KabU

    • #391631
      Enrique Rojas
      Participant

      Es necesario corregir el ego para acceder a la percepción de la gran realidad. Ahora bien, ¿cómo puedo iniciar esta corrección de mi naturaleza egoísta para avanzar hacia la equivalencia de la forma con el Creador?

    • #391122
      Kirstin
      Participant

      Thanks.  I found this lesson cryptic – perhaps I missed something.  The problem for me is that the capacity to bestow is directly proportionate to the capacity to receive.

      So one arrives at a logical conundrum that if only everybody wants to bestow, no body will want to receive, and the whole thing will come crashing to nothing.

      Unless I have missed something here… 😉  Didn’t God already make Man in his image, so both must have capacity to receive and to bestow?  However, if I look back over my life, I can see times where people were trying to give me things I could not appreciate for what they look like to me with hindsight.  This is because my perception, at those relevant times was different from what it is now.  That would mean both my capacity to receive might be bigger than it was, as is my capacity to perceive what is being bestowed.

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      • #391596

        Kirstin,
        All of this originated in the thought of creation.  The Creator desired to create a creature and fill it with endless fulfillment.
        From the side of the Creator, that is it, there is no distance between thought and completion of the action.  In spirituality, there is no time, space and motion.
        All of the changes are from the side of creation, from the side of the kli (vessel).
        We have an expression in the wisdom of kabbalah, there is no light without a kli.
        But of course there is light, the whole of reality is filled with His simple light.  What it means is that there is nothing to perceive, literally no reality unless we are perceiving it.  Besides our perception, our limited perception which is only perceiving a tiny, tiny, tiny piece of the whole, beside our perception inside our vessels of perception, there is only endless Light of the Creator.

        Now as we study the spiritual systems and stabalize our new perception inside of us, we discover many processes and we learn them one by one.  While someone may meet Kirstin on the street and say hello to Kirstin, but inside of Kirstin there are many systems, there is the respitory system, the lymphatic system, the circulatory system, the muscular system and many more and they are all doing different jobs and all working in harmony.
        You also need to see the different mechanics of the system to understand your question.
        If we don’t have a desire to receive, then we cannot fulfill the purpose of creation.
        If the car doesn’t have gas, it cannot run, so the car needs an explosion to make the pistons turn.  But if the explosion is not controlled the entire car will blow up.  So yes we need and explosion, but only in the right place at the right time and under the right conditions and everything around the explosion must be perfect as well.
        So we must receive in order to fulfill the purpose of creation, which is to receive endlessly from the Creator,however receiving makes us 100% opposite from the Creator and makes us as far from Him as east is from west.
        So there is a correction on the creation that the vessel will not receive unless it receives with an intention to not receive for itself, which makes it 100% opposite to the Creator, but only to receive because the Creator wants to give, so on the level of the intention, the receiving is actually bestowing.
        Seth@KabU

    • #389579
      Peter
      Participant

      So far we have talked about a man, a human. In the reading for this class we have learned that it is said, ” All of the works are made for him.” Does the teaching of Kabbalah support other life on other planets. Are WE in this alone as the only human life form on the path to God, or are we part of Life that is beyond this planet?

      • #389878

        Peter,
        It’s a big world out there.
        What the wisdom of kabbalah is teaching us requires that we change our focus, change our glasses.
        Imagine looking at the world as a 5 year old vs. looking at the world as a 50 year old man.  It’s the same world, but of course everything is different, you understand that inside a car is an engine, you understand working to earn money to pay for things, a 5 year old lives in the same world but doesn’t understand the mechanics of it.
        Similarly, the world itself doesn’t change, the Upper Light is at rest, only we change and all of the phenomenon that we experience are only the changes in our perception as we come closer and closer to merging with the Light in wholeness, integrality, harmony, love.
        What we are learning is that in all that vast space, some part of the creation developed to begin to perceive itself, who it is, what forces are acting on it, how to attain equivalence with the Upper, bestowing force, that is the human…just that, the part of the entire creation that developed to ask finally, who am I.  And everything else in reality, planets, starts, whoever else is out there, is part of that same perception of ours.
        Seth@KabU

      • #389630
        Logynn
        Participant

        Since the only thing that was created was the singular desire that our collective is composed of, I think it would make sense it includes every single thing in this reality. In a way, it makes the question of alien life kind of irrelevant. Because either they exist and they are part of us, and we will know them when we all come together. Or they don’t exist in this reality. That is my thought on it.

        I also think about all this discussion of the limitations of our five senses. We cannot know if the massive “space” we perceive around us is actually that much matter and space, or just our interpretation of the size of the inanimate level compared to the self we identify as. Or maybe each of us is like in our own holographic universe of our own perception, like a single fiber in a fiber optic cable, and the difference is a mathematical harmonic and not space that separates us. There are a million ideas I can think of how it could work.

        But it all seems irrelevant. (Interesting, and fun to think about, but irrelevant.) Because no matter what it is it still fits with what the Kabbalists say. IMHO

    • #388862
      LORI
      Participant

      This makes sense to me. Thank you

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