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    Ask anything about week 2 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor.

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    • #307058
      Ghera
      Participant

      According to the lesson we don’t need to change our behavior we need to change our software (intention). How does that work with immoral behavior?

      Lets say I’m a thief. I take other peoples property. Before kabbalah i was taking it because i wanted to own their stuff. Now lets say ive been exposed to kabbalah and i am trying to change my intention. So now i steal not because i want to own things but because “i want to unburden others from their material possessions”

      Am i understanding right?

      How would you reconcile that?

      • #307131

        Ghera,
        There is nothing to reconcile.  A kabbalist who has revealed the integral laws of nature upon himself is incapable of harming the system.  To be a kabbalist meanst that one has become in harmony with the system.
        Your understanding is confused.  You are thinking that spiritual attainment is some kind of possession that you can put in your pocket and pull it out when your ego thinks its good to use it.
        The desire for stealing doesn’t have to go away, but you’ll feel what it is at its root, how to steal uncorrected desires from the other side and raise them up to kedusha/sanctity.
        We’ll see, it is an exciting journey we are on.
        Seth@KabU

    • #306587
      John Caton
      Participant

      So in fact, we are limited to “matter” and “form of matter”, unable to discern “abstract form” and “essence”. As we move up the rungs, what happens? Do we gradually discern abstract forms, or are abstract forms “moving” into or becoming forms of matter?

      • #307081

        John,

        This is the way that matter comes to feel something beyond time and space.
        For now accept what the kabbalists are writing as they gave us nothing less than the map they used to reach their degrees.

        We tell our children for example to play soccer. We also see Messi “play soccer” and win the World Cup. So even though in both examples, with the child and with Messi we say “play soccer”, the words mean totally different things depending on the stage of the person.

        Seth@KabU

    • #305921
      saps
      Participant

      What is the reason & purpose of creating humans in such a way that we have to learn to attain the spiritual ‘6th sense’? What was the rationale behind purposefully creating the ‘creature’ without the 6th sense? Thanks! S

      • #305980

        saps,
        Before this we were like a spark inside the sun.  No “me”, no sense of who is the Creator, what is the Creator, how big, how great, what qualities, etc.  We through our work build Him, discover Him.  Of course He is there all along, but by our efforts we discover him in our vessels.
        Seth@KabU

    • #305911
      saps
      Participant

      what is an example of a human that completely masters the will to bestow? does it mean becoming completely selfless, doing everything for others rather than oneself? does it require one to completely neglect all the desires lower than the spiritual one? Thank you! S

      • #306015
        saps
        Participant

        Thank you Seth!

      • #305979

        saps,
        What is the purpose of creation?
        To create a creature and fill it with endless delight.
        In order for the purpose of creation to be fulfilled the creature must receive endless fulfillment.
        So what’s the problem?
        In order for us to feel pleasure, we need to  feel empty first.  The pleasure specifically fills the empty place.
        So now we have a creature called Malchut of Ein Sof that is completely empty and when the pleasure enters it extinguishes the desire.  You’re hungry, you eat, you’re not hungry anymore…in other words you can’t be filled anymore, so what do you do, you drink, ok, now what, you go watch a movie, ok now what? You get the point, this is a fruitless endeavor.
        So we discussed the purpose of creation.
        Now we need to discuss the correction of creation.  Malchut of Ein Sof goes through many processes and we will study them together whereby she receives, but only in order to bestow to the Creator.  So for her, everything becomes spiritual pleasure.  She can eat…she feels the Creator there.  She can give something to another…she feels the Creator there.  It doesn’t matter anymore if she is up or down or giving or taking, she has new, spiritual vessels and in those vessels she is relating to the Creator.  And in her material vessels, her hands, her stomach, etc, they remain in this world as usual.
        Seth@KabU

    • #305664
      Ben
      Participant

      I have learned about equivalence of form. My desire is to receive but I am developing a screen where my desire to receive is related to my new intention to bestow.  In practicality, each day now I read a portion of Torah and I seek to do good deeds when I am asked, even when I really don’t want to.  I feel a fulfillment in these activities of Mitzvot and Torah that I fills an empty space within.  I would rather a world filled with people who do good deeds for each other than people who have great knowledge although it is best to have both.  For me, if I never learn anymore about Kabbalah except what I have learned and put into practice, that would be enough for me, although, of course I hope to learn more.  Am I wrong to think this way?

      • #306016
        saps
        Participant

        Thank you!

      • #305739

        Ben,
        There are many degrees along the way.  They are all written about in the sources.  You are describing one of the steps.
        Everything is according to the desire in a person’s heart.
        Seth@KabU

    • #305634
      Leah Bergman
      Participant

      I’m reading Attaining the Worlds and it mentions the AHP, but I can’t remember what that is or the GE. Can you please explain this to me?

      • #305665

        Leah,
        Our teacher, Rav Laitman explained it one time like this:

        The first man was created with only bestowing Kelim, Galgalta veEynaim (GE). He did not have desires to receive, the AHP, for he still needed to acquire them. And he did not simply need desires to receive, but desires that are ready for correction, meaning desires that include sparks of bestowal.

        There is no need to correct the Galgata veEynaim since this is not a person; it is an angel in the Garden of Eden. What was needed was a person with a broken soul, with all the preparations for correction, and this is why the breaking occurred.

        However, breaking alone was not enough since a person does not feel that he is broken – he was born this way! Being broken, he has no contact with the Light relative to which he could measure himself and realize his state. Now he needs to gradually accumulate the definitions inside himself in order to understand that he is broken. And he does this due to two components: his desire to enjoy and the spark of bestowal. They both need to be cultivated.

        He engages in this until by checking one against another, he reaches a state of disappointment. Then he can begin the correction in order to become human.

        Seth@KabU

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