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If the creator wants to create us and fill us with pleasure, and we want to receive pleasure, then why are we going through a process where we move from the will to receive into the will to bestow?
Wouldn’t that make us the opposite of what the creator wants? (if the creator wants to bestow and wants us to receive?)
Is this entire process so that there will be two from one, but counterparts/reflections?
Two wholes that enjoy to both give and receive?
Shel,
You are in the fundamental courses. After that you will have the opportunity to join the graduate environment where we study a very important kabbalistic article called Pticha, “the Preface”, where Baal HaSulam writes to us about the cascading of the Upper Light from Ein Sof (infinity) down through all of the spiritual worlds, the creation of the vessel (kli) all the way to the souls, the shattering of the common soul of Adam HaRishon and how we make corrections and rise up along that very same ladder.
That is where your question will be answered in depth.
In short, the purpose of creation is to create a creature and fill it with delight.
The creation, called Malchut of Ein Sof, receives all of the light of the Creator, infinite, endless Light.
But the creature is now 100% opposite from the Creator.
On is 100% to bestow and the other is 100% to receive.
What to do? So first there is the purpose of creation and then there is the correction of creation.
In order for the kli, the creation to receive everything but not to be opposite from the Creator, the creation goes through a correction process whereby he inverts from receiving in order to receive to receiving only in order to give pleasure back to the Creator.
Seth@KabU(Hmmm.. I am going to try to answer my own question.. please correct me though if this is wrong:
The Creator desires to bestow pleasure
The Creation desires to receive pleasure
But if the WAY that The Creation receives pleasure is by bestowing pleasure (same as creator) then both The Creator and The Creation are receiving pleasure by bestowing pleasure?)
This is what we see in p.34 of “Kabbalah for Student”.
It is written, “For the commandment is a candle, and the teaching is light.” As one who has candles but no light to light them sits in the dark, one who has Mitzvot but no Torah sits in the dark. This is because the Torah is Light, by which the darkness in the body is illuminated and lit up.
Does that mean, Do we need both the Torah and Mitzvot? If Mitzvot is also required, I believe there are 613 Mitzvot’s.
Do we need to follow all the Mitzvot’s? Are they up to date with current human evolution?Or only Torah enough?
Saji,
You entered a very special environment. It will require that you slowly learn the meaning of all of these words.
We are not referring to mitzvot as a physical act that you do with your hands or with a piece of leather or with a certain species of animal.
The mitzvot are corrections on our desires from in order to receive to in order to bestow.
The physical mitzvot that you are referring to were implemented by the sages prior to the 2000 year exile in order to hold the form of the people and the culture through the long and difficult exile, they took spiritual actions and clothed them into corporeal actions.
So that you don’t get confused all of the work that we are studying is work in the heart.
This will become more clear as you progress in the study.
Good luck,
Seth@KabUHello Seth,
“The mitzvot are corrections on our desires from in order to receive to in order to bestow”.
Thank you!
Meaning our ultimate aim will be like, making ourselves as a transmitter through this current “Will To Receive” to the environment we belong, without even experience any pleasure for the reception but only on the Bestowal. Will it be possible? We live in a tightly webbed competitive world. We have to face Competitor and some time enemies. In a sense we perceive this as an illusion, but on the work front (survival), we need to give our best effort, because we face people who are not having this perception and for sure their action will drag as to the level below any spiritual level. Their ego level is of this world. Is it really possible to handle the situation without getting provoked? Will it be possible to become a “Will To Bestow”?
-Saji
Hello,
1. If spirituality is above time and space, that means there is no time in the spiritual world. As we are always related with time, that is the distance between birth and death, Are we in illusion? I mean, does the reality we perceive is an illusion?
2. Again when we talk about corporeal world, we talk about some historical time , we call them as various phases (between some BCE to CE – today) like STILL,VEGETATIVE,ANIMATE,HUMAN and spiritual. Especially we talk about year 1995, the year on which kabbalah was again opened back to all the people. Does that mean, is this corporeal world exist continuously? did it exist before my birth and will it exist after my death?
Saji,
There are very important questions and also very confusing questions.
On the one hand we have developed as we are with good reason. The nature of reality was created in a way for us to go from this perception to the eternal perception. But we do not disregard this life. To the contrary, we live a healthy life, we have a family, do good work, all of the normal things required of any creature on Earth.
In addition to that you are correct, as we are studying, this reality is an illusion. How can we discover that?
Take a cat to the opera. You will sit there and your heart will be moved and the cat will fall asleep, she doesn’t even know that there is a theatre that she is sitting in. And what about the ant crawling on the floor? He also doesn’t know about the world that you are in. There is some reality, but every creature perceives it completely different and all of that perception is based on how the creature is designed and the “operating system” in the creature.Regarding the corporeal world and time, all of these are qualitative measurements. Later we will study together the structure of the upper worlds and there it becomes more clear that we are not pointing to some planet and some world, but relations. All of this world was given to us in order to feel what is close, what is far, who am I, who is the Creator, without this external world, we would be like a piece of dust floating through endless eternity with no perception of ourselves.
Seth@KabU
What is the sixth sense, so called the third eye and how do we achieve it? How do we go beyond the perception of survival and beliefs put into us, and expand into more meaning thoughts and behaviors?
How do we expand our limit perception of reality and go into higher states of conciousness?
Swaggy,
This is a serious question.
If you observe your life you’ll discover that you are a desire to receive pleasure. Everything you think and do is only how to be in a more optimal state. And not only you, the bird outside, the atoms in air. The entire creation is a will to receive. That is the only creation that the Creator created. Take a minute and think about that.
99.99999999% of reality exists seemingly outside of us (later we will learn that all of reality is inside of us, but that’s for later). When we look at the stars, the planets, even the other countries and the sea, billions of people and all of the creatures, it is all outside of me, yet my entire perception system is made of a few openings where I let a tiny amount of data into my body and from that tiny amount of data I build my perception of the world.
The secret to your answer will be found in inverting our perception from taking everything in life to fill myself, to participating in the whole of reality as a small link in an eternal chain that stretches above me and below me and that I am a conduit for the eternal light that passes through me.
We will get into this much more later.
Now, the most important is to stabilize yourself with the foundations of where am I, who am I, where can I make a spiritual action.
Seth@KabU
I beleive I’ve sensed spirits of ansestors as well as received communication. This is before my knowledge of Kaballah. Is possible I developed kli through other means as kli is required to sense the spirit or am I misunderstanding kli’s relation to sensing spirit or is it more likely these were manifestations of my desire. They seemed very real and purposeful, thus this raises confusion in me.
Jesse,
You can feel a lot of things.
There are many accounts of people who can feel the future, feel the past, this is all possible.
When we are speaking about the kli, there is the general kli, meaning that all of the desire of creation is on four degrees: inanimate, vegetative, animate and speaking degrees. All of that desire is called the kli.
But this is how we perceive the desire with our corporeal senses. For example a dog and a man can both perceive a rock, a plant an elephant and a person, but the dog and the man would perceive them differently based on their degree of development.
We are studying only about the perception and attainment of spirituality, a whole and eternal reality.
This reality is built through many conscious efforts over a period of time with a teacher who already has this attainment, studying books written by those who attained the upper most degrees.
All of our courses in KabU are designed to prepare a person to enter into this work.
Seth@KabU
– If our perception of reality is basically distorted and programed or in other words; conditioned
then how can we be confident that we are understanding these very lessons truly?
– Where do our thoughts come from? We perceive them but we do not use any of our 5 common senses to do that. What are thoughts in this regard and do they have any value at all?
Actingraphy,
Of course each one perceives through his own vessels. That is clear.
However we also live on earth and there are laws that are established. While we study that spirituality is beyond time, space and motion, we also live in a world where gravity is a reality.
We know that it is hotter in the summer than it is in the winter. So like this we start to construct for ourselves an understanding of what we are studying. There will be confusions, of course, but we advance with both heart and mind, these are our tools, so take notes, try to understand at least in a simple way without bringing all of your luggage from your past, just learn what we are studying in a simple way. Later we will acquire other tools which are above our mind, but even then we still return to the mind and back and forth from entrances and exits we advance, as it says, “the Torah will come out of Zion (exits)”.All of our thoughts and everything in reality develops through a process of cause and effect. Thoughts serve the desire. Change the desire and the thoughts will change.
Seth@KabUHello Seth,
Thanks for the comprehensive reply. I got cleared. This part that you mentioned “your luggage from your past” is so interesting to me… you mean both the past studies, right?
In response to another question, I was told that “Thoughts” are coming from Him and for this reason they are important, so based on
” Thoughts serve the desire. Change the desire and the thoughts will change.”
we cooperate with Him, somehow, in terms of the kind of thoughts that are coming to us at any given moment, is that correct?
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