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    • #312525
      Amirhossein
      Participant

      The people of the world are many times more than 600000 so how are they gonna get corrected all?

      And with all kabbalists through the times didn’t they corrected any of these desires or reduced them at least?

      • #312622

        Hello,

        600,000 is less of a quantitative number and more of a qualitative number. It represents the strength of the spiritual desire after it’s been fully corrected. So essentially all of humanity is included in this number.

        Check out this blog post to see how this number is derived: https://laitman.com/2010/09/love-and-hatred-of-600000-souls/

        How will all of humanity reach their correction? Gradually each one will receive an awakening, just like you and I did, and then they will start working on their spiritual correction. But receiving an awakening does not depend on them, but on us. This is because there is a certain order of corrections that need to take place in the system. It’s like building a large jigsaw puzzle. First you start with all the corner pieces, and only then do you gradually work your way to the center. So those that received awakened points in the hearts are like those corner pieces of the puzzle that need to start the whole process. Later on, due to their good work, they pave the way for the rest of the world to join this process.

        As for the past Kabbalists, they did perform their correction, but it does not take away from the work that we need to do. Just picture that all of humanity is part of a 8 billion piece jigsaw puzzle. Each person is responsible for his own piece. Meaning that I cannot place someone else’s piece, but if I find where my piece fits, it makes it easier for others to find where their piece fits.

        Albert @ KabU

    • #312463
      Laurel
      Participant

      So every time when a desire moves from its corrupted “will to receive” to its perfected “will to bestow” form it connects us to eternity (Creator???).  This thought behind the entire process (eternity) not only does it for this one individual???? and this one particular desire but it becomes corrected in each one of the other desires (seeing the craziness in other desires)???? So it raises not only the person who does the connection but their entire world.  Can you explain this to me.  Thanks

      • #312620

        Hi Laurel,

        We learn that all of humanity is part of one single system, like cells within a single body. So naturally what one experiences influences EVERYONE else. And if I reach a correction, this same correction influences everyone. But I don’t actually correct the other person, rather I correct my part that is found within everyone.

        It’s like a hologram where the big image is made up of identical smaller copies of that image. So if there is a flaw in one of the smaller images, that same flaw is found in every piece. And if you correct that flaw in the small piece, it’s reflected in the whole image.

        So if I correct myself, I correct my part of this general picture. That is called reaching one’s individual final correction. But each one will still need to correct their part of the general picture. And when everyone corrects their part, then we reach the final correction of the whole world.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2017/04/the-fractality-of-nature/

        Albert @ KabU

    • #312346
      Scott
      Participant

      The path of pain reminds me of the pain body that some in eastern philosophy mention. It’s living through the ego. There seems to be so much awareness of related facts in the various religions etc but no understanding of how to deal with them. My questions were already answered below of when we’ll be shown the methods. It must take a lot of preparation of ourselves to even be ready for such. Looking forward and liking the teaching style here

    • #312310
      Karim C
      Participant

      Is there some significance to the number 613?  Are there any Hebrew words that equal 613?

      I’m just curious.  Thank you.

      • #312604
        Jennifer
        Participant

        Karim, there are 613 Laws in the Torah

      • #312314

        Hi Karim,

        613 is the number of corrections that need to be placed over the spiritual desire. This number is further divided into 248 desires of bestowing in order to bestow and 365 desires that operate on receiving in order to bestow. We’ll learn how this number is derived in the more advanced lessons on KabU that deal with the structure of the upper worlds.

        Albert @ KabU

        • #313001
          Jennifer
          Participant

          Karim, will we go over the 613 Torah Commandments in our KabU courses or should we seek this on our own? There are many that apply only to a man or a woman or a widow or a priest but many that leave me scratching my head.

        • #313072

          Hi Jennifer,

          In the article Matan Torah (the giving of the Torah), Baal HaSulam explains that the main commandment that we need to follow is “love your friend as yourself”, and that all the rest of the 612 commandments are included in this commandment. So essentially this is the only commandment that we need to focus on and try to implement. We’ll learn more about this in the upcoming lessons.

          Albert @ KabU

          Link to the article: https://kabbalahmedia.info/sources/2bscFWf4

    • #311772
      Todd
      Participant

      So I seen this video before but this time I think this is crucial.  So I need to feel the suffering of my current state, the more I suffer for not being able to attain the creator the more I can attain the creator?

      • #311782

        Hi Todd,

        We attain the Creator by becoming similar to Him, to His qualities of love and bestowal. This follows the law of equivalence of form. Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: http://laitman.com/2013/04/everything-is-attained-by-the-equivalence-of-form/

        If we’re suffering, we become opposite to the Creator and as a result, we cannot attain Him. For this reason, we never focus on anything negative in our spiritual work. All of our aspirations need to be on positive things, on becoming more loving like Him, being more connected, etc. If as a result of that positive aspiration we reveal how incapable we are of truly loving like Him, or how much we are suffering from not being able to resemble Him, that’s fine. That’s also part of the work. But that’s a result, a side effect of aspiring towards something positive. It’s not the goal itself. We NEVER aspire to be in any negative state.

        We’ll learn how to work with these things more practically in the more advanced lessons.

        Albert @ KabU

    • #311488
      Todd
      Participant

      Do we work on one of the 613 desires at a time?   Is there a sequence?  Which one do we work on first?   Do we correct 613 desires for each step of the 125 steps?

      • #311573

        Hi Todd,

        Yes, you can say that each degree contains 613 desires. This is because spirituality is a state of wholeness. Every degree has everything within it. From that point of view, 613 becomes less of a quantitative number and move of a qualitative description of a whole state.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2010/11/numbers-indicate-quality-not-quantity/

        Keep in mind that in practice, we don’t work according to some kind of list of desires, but simply with whatever is being awakened in the moment.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2015/09/compliance-with-the-613-mitzvot-commandments/

        Also keep in mind that the 613 desires that we are learning about are spiritual desires, meaning desires that we don’t yet have. This is similar to how a single cell in a body only has some basic desires. But when that cell is part of a greater body, it reveals there higher desires which are impossible for the individual cell to have: desires for money, honor, power, etc. Same with us, until we integrate with the general body of Adam HaRishon, we don’t reveal or understand these 613 spiritual desires.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2008/12/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-613-desires/

        Albert @ KabU

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