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Somehow my response was posted in the preparation. It’s fine. I understand the lesson to a certain point. The concepts are quite not exactly new to me, however some things are a bit more defined as others are very vague. I find myself struggling mostly with the constant repetition; with not always a clear and concise answer. It reminds me of the old hermetic way of the flow of knowledge. The initiate never knew what they were actually learning until they knew. Up to that point most was a mystery and remained as such. We have definitions but no real answers on how to get definitions to work in our favor. I know there is a screen but I can only develop a screen weeks maybe even months and many courses away. If this is the way I will walk this path. I just hope the flow of information changes because right now all I’m hearing is that if i become a better person i become more like the creator which i can do without “enlightenment. I want to be a better person anyway. What happens in Kabbalah that sets it aside from everything else. More than words what makes it the “only” way. I don’t mind supporting an organization that is actually what they claim. I just feel right now its just more literature to read and nothing spiritual is happening that wasn’t already happening. I hope this gets better over time, because I really don’t want to lose out on something that might be important. This is how strong “my ego” is, so to stay in this very class I have to constantly just silence it. I have grown to “hate” my ego. But these are Freudian terms that I’m referring to (selfish desires). If Kabbalah is right I know absolutely nothing about the spiritual, but I find myself really confused on this matter simply because I have been spiritual my whole life trying to form a connection with my creator. So i stayed in misery even with a good intention. I never wanted to sin. I just did
I find the repetition rather annoying too. Also, they talk about “feeling”, and I don’t have that talent. So, my intellect is both in the way and my only tool. I humbly offer it to the Creator to use it for my correction. It sounds like you’re on the border between ‘acquiring knowledge’ and ‘spirituality’, struggling to cross over (see the drawing in the lesson). Richard, I hold you in my heart as one soul: – Creator, shine your light in us please. May we FEEL You. We the brainiacs, we the intellectuals, we, who are addicted to knowledge. Thank You.
Hi Richard,
Kabbalah does not hold the monopoly over spirituality. It’s not claiming to be the one and only method. The Wisdom of Kabbalah is the accumulation of thousands of years of experience from people practically trying to reach spirituality, what worked, what didn’t, etc. It’s not a must to use it, but as you can imagine, it’s a lot faster and easier with it.
As for becoming like the Creator, this is not something we can do with our own strength. This is because the Creator is the pure quality of bestowal, while our nature is the complete opposite, pure reception, or egoism. Just like a PC cannot just reprogram itself to run as a Mac, we too cannot just change our own nature with our own strength, it’s impossible. We need help to make this change.
This help comes to us from the light, a special force that helps us to correct our nature. All of the clarifications, changes, and corrections we undergo is thanks to this light. Our work is only to extract more and more of this light, especially during the Kabbalistic studies, and it does all the rest. And although we spend a lot of time studying, the goal is not to acquire knowledge, but through the study to draw the reforming light.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: http://laitman.com/2013/02/sunbathing-in-the-rays-of-the-reforming-light/
As for the difference between the fundamentals and the advanced courses, in the advanced courses we will be doing the same work of extracting the light, but we will be doing so together in a Kabbalistic group. When we do this work together, the amount of light we can extract from the studies is exponentially greater. We’ll learn more about these things in the future lessons.
Albert @ KabU
Hello
I have 2 questions about the video “The Path of Light”:
1. Does every individual point in the heart contain 1 of 613 desires? or all 613 desires?
2. Can you give an example and describe one of the 613 desires?
Greetings
Ralitza
Hi Ralitza,
1. Each one contains all of them.
2. The 613 desires are spiritual desires that we don’t yet have. Similar to how a single cell in a body only has some basic desires. But when that cell is part of a greater body, it reveals there higher desires which are impossible for the individual cell to have: desires for money, honor, power, etc. Same with us, until we integrate with the general body of Adam HaRishon, we don’t reveal or understand these 613 spiritual desires.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2008/12/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-613-desires/
As for how we work with the 613 desires in practice, we don’t work according to some pre-made list, but simply with whatever is being awakened at the moment.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2015/09/compliance-with-the-613-mitzvot-commandments/
Albert @ KabU
Hi there.
Would then all physical (illnesses/diseases/symptoms) envies and hatred disapear througout the study of this great Science, for oneself, and thus others?
I am asking because my father is sick and bedridden, he has been trown out from his ten, but he doesn’t give up. We both make our great effort to study the Creator/The science. it is becuase of him (of course becuase of the Creator) that i ma back and fully focused in this course. The why the heck, is still the Creator been so rude and harsh towards my father? Knowing that puts and makes extreme efforts to study Kabbalah?
Pedro
Hi Pedro,
I’m sorry but I cannot comment on your personal situation, we can only talk about these things in general. In general, Kabbalah is not a magical pill to get rid of all of our problems. Such a thing does not exist. This is because we’re egoists and avoiding pain is one of the major motivating forces for us. If we were to get rid of that force, then we would have no drive to continue our development.
So what good is studying Kabbalah then? It’s in order to correct our egoism. Once we correct it, we will no longer need problems and suffering in order to push us to develop because we ourselves will generate the force for our development.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2011/06/how-can-we-justify-the-creator/
As for issues within the ten, I cannot comment on that either. In general, it’s very rare for a person to get removed from a ten. It’s because we’re all learning and learning involves making lots and lots of mistakes. Usually all the members of the ten understand this and are therefore very patient with each other. The only times a person get removed from a ten is if a person is directly causing harm to others. And harm is not necessarily that someone is picking up a knife and trying to hurt someone else, but harm can also include spiritual harm, that we’re diverting the friends from the spiritual path. But this is very rare and generally involves a lengthy discussion within the ten and the ten coordinator. But again, it’s not my place to comment on such things, you can contact the Latin American tens coordinator to discuss this further.
Albert @ KabU
Dear Albert.
First of all, I want to thank you for your time and dedication in answering my questions, as well as for getting back to me with such solid content!
I think that my father’s got to solve his ten issues himself. His situation seemed to be quite unfair and confusing, but now that you describe the reasons for one to be thrown out, many things make sense.
I look forward to continuing with this course and moving on to the second part, to one day be able to work within a Ten. I will also be attending the coming congress over the weekend.
Kind regards,
Pedro.
Can anyone answer this question? What will happen to Neshama after Yechida? Like a jar falling into the sea! There will be water inside and outside the jug! It’s so scary! We become nothing! We disappear and are attracted to the Creator (צלם).
Hi Asher,
We don’t disappear. If anything, the whole process that we’re undergoing is the process by which we clarify further and further who we are. We learn this from the 3 phases that Baal HaSulam describes in the article Introduction to the book of Zohar. That we were created in the state of perfection but this was an unconscious state, like a baby in its mother’s womb. So we necessarily had to come to the complete opposite state, to lose that state of perfection, in order to once again reach it, but this time consciously.
So even though we return to that initial state of being in complete adhesion with the Creator, thanks to the process we underwent, we remain as two separate things. Baal HaSulam describes this with the candle and torch analogy in the Preface to the Wisdom of Kabbalah. Here’s an excerpt:
“The reason why the will to receive must cascade by the four above-mentioned discernments in ABYA [Atzilut, Beria, Yetzira, Assiya] is that there is a great rule concerning the Kelim [pl. of Kli]: The expansion of the light and its departure make the Kli fit for its task. This means that as long as the Kli has not been separated from its light, it is included in the light and is annulled within it like a candle before a torch.
This annulment is because they are completely opposite from one another, on opposite ends. This is so because the light extends from His self, existence from existence. From the perspective of the thought of creation in Ein Sof [infinity], it is all toward bestowal and there is no trace of a will to receive in it. Its opposite is the Kli, the great will to receive that abundance, and is the root of the initiated creature, in which there is no bestowal whatsoever.
Hence, when they are bound together, the will to receive is annulled in the light within it, and can determine its form only once the light has departed from it once. Following the departure of the light from it, it begins to crave it, and this craving properly determines and sets the shape of the will to receive. Subsequently, when the light dresses in it once more, it is regarded as two separate matters: Kli and light, or Guf and life. Observe closely, for this is most profound.”
Feel free to check out these articles directly here:
Preface to the Wisdom of Kabbalah: https://kabbalahmedia.info/sources/kB3eD83I?language=en
Introduction to the book of Zohar: https://kabbalahmedia.info/sources/ALlyoveA?language=en
Albert @ KabU
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