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    • #393021
      Verena
      Participant

      Is there only conscious prayer or also unconscious prayer? I am just thinking of infants or children because of the analogy of the bond between mother and baby…is there any such thing as a natural , uneducated connection that those little ones can feel or draw? Or is this the stage where they feel just abandoned? I know birth is considered as being traumatic in itself partially because of the loss of overall protection and care… but how is it considered in terms of spirituality?

       

      • #393039

        We’re always in some prayer, but Kabbalah doesn’t take that into account. We don’t pray the prayer for connection of what’s broken (the shattered soul) that the Creator responds to.

        Birth is a crisis because it’s a new state where the same connection with the Upper Degree is on a different level, no longer in the womb, but in the mother’s arms, and so on. In spirituality these degrees are called Ibur (impregnation), Yenicha (suckling), and later on there is Mochin (adulthood).

        • #393051
          Verena
          Participant

          Hi Gianni, thanks so much for answering.  I think I got the second part of your answer, but I am afraid I didn´t understand the first part… “We don’t pray the prayer for connection of what’s broken (the shattered soul) that the Creator responds to.”

          Why wouldn´t we pray for that? I understand we don´t pray for what we want or need for ourselves and others, and even less for being advantaged over others  – minding that the upper force has only “the good” in it and will provide us with what we need to grow (even if that may be rather the opposite of what we seek in our lives…). But why wouldn´t we pray for connection? I thought that is what it is about? I feel I am getting this totally wrong…  I thought a prayer is the yearning to be connected to the upper light, and if we address it to the upper force in terms of developing ourselves in order to understand and change ourselves towards this connection that´s a prayer? And if we address it to the upper force in terms of helping our friends develop in their journey, that is what will make the desire an then connection even stronger?  I am happy with any help to understand this :-))

        • #393063

          I meant that we naturally request what is good for us, all the time. The request for connection or for others is not just not natural, but against one’s desire because the Shattering imparted a sensation of otherness and hatred for what is outside of me.

        • #393078
          Verena
          Participant

          Hi Gianni, thanks so much for trying to clarify this. I feel my ego is still a bit stubborn here… itś really important to me, but I feel still a bit lost… because in fact I had understood that connecting my desire and maybe those of my group (if I have one)  on behalf of a friend, that yearning for him to progress, would be a Kabbalistic prayer. And that these desires can then connect and draw the light at some point. Is that right at all? Or, if praying for connection or for others is unnatural,… then probably I just got it totally wrong? Sorry, I really dońt want to be bothering, but I really just wish to understand this, because itś just crucial for me.😊

        • #393079

          It’s correct to pray for the others to be connected, but it’s unnatural to do so; that’s why we need the wisdom of Kabbalah to give us such advice. Otherwise, we’d never think in that direction.

        • #393082
          Verena
          Participant

          Thanks so much😊, now I got it 🦋

    • #383700
      Katherine
      Participant

      Where do we find our group?

      • #383701

        Hi Katherine,

        The students here will be your group. You’ll get a focus group, called a ten, in the Grad Program.

    • #369797
      Johan
      Participant

      Hi, this question is kind of personal. I am here with serious doubt. I asked on the other forum about Jesus and the devil ,because I know, since I started studying kabbalah, what an environment which is not useful can do. Right here ,right now, right this time, I am surrounded by (E) churches, which believe seriously about Jesus and stuff, they are in bunches, they yell, scream, and sometimes seem that what they are saying is true. What I would like to know is if I keep being immersed in such an environment, won´t I get contaminated by these kinds of ideology, behavior, ways and get disturbed?

      thanks

      • #369800

        We’re influenced more than we can imagine by every environment we enter. We can’t control the ones we have to be in like work and family. Beyond those related to these basic necessities, I can choose, and this is really my only free choice, and what determines my future.

    • #369605
      Sheila
      Participant

      I have a very personal question regarding my prayer. I do not usually share personal issues but I wondered if my request is something that can be included with our upcoming Saturday live session, or perhaps not. This is very hard for me to ask in public but I will ask anyway.

      Next week I will have oral surgery that will be somewhat extensive and very painful. Because I am unable to take medications I expect it will be severe pain for a while. And I have an underlying immune condition (fungal-coccidiomycosis) that can potentially kick in and make me very ill for 6 months or more and even be life-threatening at my age now. This is all due to a genetic dental problem from birth. I will do everything I can, but the pain will still be severe and the stress, physically and mentally, is an opportunity for the fungal meningitis to reappear.

      I have been praying, pleading for help to get through it so I may take care of my home, my family of 7 rescue dogs, my husband, and my studies here. I am watching Gil speak of how illness can be helped with the right prayer. My surgery is on the 25th. I do not know if I will be able to finish week 5 and move forward but I must do this. I am so embarrassed to even ask, but I am asking. Is this a prayer that can be answered with my effort and my need, or is it just a this-life problem I was given and so must accept whatever happens? Thank you for an honest answer Gianni. I hope to make it on Saturday, but not with a camera as I am mostly toothless now and my ego is not happy. Thank you.

      • #369713

        I can always ask my ten to pray for such a situation. I hope that it is an opportunity for them, to pray, to ask for another, and to unite. After all, this may impair your participation with them on the path. Toward the issue itself, if it’s already happening then it is beneficial to try to nevertheless justify the Creator, that there is none besides Him and that He is good and doing good, only I lack the senses to feel it yet.

      • #369705
        Sheila
        Participant

        So, I just want to retract this request as I just realized that the format on Saturday is not what I had anticipated.

        • #369714

          Right. I realized you wouldn’t already have a group. But still, we’ll think of you.

        • #369716
          Sheila
          Participant

          Thank you Gianni. I am so grateful to be here, to have learned, and felt, as the point in my heart has grown. I am different from the person I was when I first came here and my prayer is truly in my heart, mostly without words, and mostly for my family, my friends on the groups I manage online, a prayer for strength to deal with it and get through it. And although I am afraid I somehow feel that ‘this time’ will be different because of the love of the Creator. And because of the group, even though I don’t really have one I do have the other students, and the instructors, and my books. So many books. A prayer for my strength and ability to come back to the Creator in your minyon would be welcome. I have procrastinated this surgery for a long time but I must do it. I will tell you a funny story. I had already started KabU and had just gone through a beginning lesson about losing your ego. That night while I was flossing my teeth the floss went right through the cemented bridge on both sides and down it went into the sink. I was toothless. I looked in the mirror and laughed. Toothless old hag! I stood there with a funny grin and said my thanks to the Creator for confirming my lesson. My heart is with Kabbalah. My heart is here.

        • #369717

          Thanks, Sheila. Our heart is with you.

    • #357065
      Steve Miley
      Participant

      This really doesn’t have too much to do with the lesson. However, I thought I’d mention the fact that I’m starting to have Kabbalah dreams in which I’m having revelations that I just can’t hold onto, fully when I wake I suppose I need to start writing this down wouldn’t you think? One was on the voyages of Sir Francis Drake around 1524 when he’s sailing through the straits of Magellan and just thinking of how far society has come since the 1500s as far as technological advances and the fact that society itself technology is all becoming more and more novel and complicated in the physical world, I kind of imagine that the same evolution of man would be going on inside man himself,  in relation to the ALL. It’s just completely trippy and awesome that in the last 400 years we have come so far on this planet, and I would imagine what we materialize on the planet as far as technology and progress, would be in relation or be equal to where we are spiritually. If that being the case seems like humanity is evolving, exponentially fast and I would imagine spiritually we would be doing the same. What do you think?

      • #357072

        Our “advancement” in our world is more correctly an indication of the changes we need to go through now, and in the end, when we see ourselves in a few years we’ll see that we have not advanced since this world was made not for us to discover continents and technology, but to use this reality as a stair to the Upper World. We’ll realize that we’re medieval, stunted, brutes and that all the true advancement is ahead of us.

        No, we don’t have something like that in the wisdom of Kabbalah, to write down our dreams. Our dreams are simply the filing of files into a filing cabinet when during the day I did not know how to organize correctly the various stimuli in my experience – meaning in a spiritual manner. Therefore, I don’t need to delve my dreams to advance spiritually.

    • #335986
      Sarah
      Participant

      HI, Gianni & Friends,

      My question is about the origins of Kabbalah.  I m wondering if in the time of Abraham, people had much less ego we do now ?  He broke the idols & had sussed there was only One force of Creation.  Then he went into the desert and opened his tent to all comers, telling them about ……..I guess…………. all this ?  HOW did he know?   I m guessing again that some of the people who he talked to became his “group of ten “, and then they sussed the rest ?

      I’m asking – did the Reforming Light make an exception in his case & respond , so he was able to be guided BEFORE he had fully understood ?

      And – this may be my last question here. I d like to thank you, Gianni, as I ve greatly enjoyed our correspondences, and learned  so much from you. Blessings !

      • #357216
        Steve Miley
        Participant

        Thanks, I guess I never thought of it that way, though I can clearly see your point. I much appreciate your insight.

      • #336003

        First, I’m not in the state of Abraham (which is attainable for a person) to be able to talk from there, but we’re in a system and the laws universally apply – like gravity. But different particles – toward this system we’re like particles – ascend according to their relative mass, called Aviut (coarseness). Special souls like Abraham have a lighter coarseness alongside a great Point in the Heart. One is subject to the conditions of the generation in which they are born, which comes out like a wave – and then there’s the unique root of the soul. So, there are those such as Adam, Abraham, Moses, Rashbi, Ari, Baal HaSulam that have conditions that, yes, they’re special. But the laws are there, above each one, and each has an opportunity to attain within their provided conditions.

        • #336131
          Varda kahalany
          Participant

          Hello Gianni, while reading your answer to Sarah you mentioned ‘special souls’ and ‘unique root of the soul’.  I thought that all souls originated from the shattering of ‘Adam Rishon’ and I am a bit confused about the meaning of ‘the root of the soul’ if this is so. In addition, since everything happens for a reason, why is it that souls have different level of coarseness ? A soul which is coarser would have to work harder in order to attain the creator then a lighter soul who already has some degree of attainment.  I hope my questions are not stupid or childish and I would be grateful if you could explain them a bit.

          thanks 🙂

           

        • #336132

          No, they’re good questions.

          “Special souls” just means they have a special role in terms of the order in which their part is required to help others attain their souls. And the system can’t move forward without them.

          Yes, it’s harder if your soul is higher (your Aviut is greater) however, on the other hand, no – because the effort is relative and different for each one such that each will nevertheless reach the end of their abilities to reach for spirituality and will thus be forced to turn to the Upper Force for help.

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