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- April 21, 2020 at 6:28 pm EDT #28787
Tony Kosinec- KabU InstructorModeratorReflect: Share something from the lesson that blew your mind, or even just gave you a new perspective.
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- September 21, 2024 at 9:28 am EDT #388470
Luz
ParticipantTwo awakenings: First that they are not limitations and spirituality is not about rituals.
- September 20, 2024 at 4:24 pm EDT #388421
Peter
ParticipantLesson 1 materials helped me re-set several of my perspectives on life. I appreciate how rational and simple the teaching are. One video has made a significant impact on me. In the video Tony Konec compares and explains the difference between Awakening and Spiritual Awakening. The core of my historical belief was “I and everyone else awaken individually, and at some point of awakening all of us become One.” Now, I see how irrational that is, and that it fails to discuss other details that are necessary to foster a Spiritual Awakening. As Tony’s words carried the truth to my ears, I felt it and I felt the heaviness of it. I felt the rationality of the explanation. I felt heaviness around the effort that it will take on my part to change. My myth of my awakening was being literally deconstructed in real time. No hero story for my ego. No zip zap magic to show off my talents. No petitions praying for God to change. No closing off from people. I felt silence in me. It was a big “oh oh,” for me. It was a gift of harsh reality, and it felt silencing. The other thing was, I felt my commitment, and with that came the feeling of the potential power of spiritual awakening. This was calming. As I write this, couple of days later after watching the video, I still feel that silence of that moment. I do not want to doubt, but I still have a bit of that in me. Am I seriously committed to this? This would mean letting go of my historical myths that have provided me with a level of protection, and got me to now (at least that is what I believed at that time). Am I seriously committed to this? The degree to which I comprehend the teachings, this is serious stuff. I cannot be half in, half out. That’s that.
I am looking forward to lesson 2.
- September 18, 2024 at 6:00 pm EDT #387976
Ben
ParticipantI am always amazed at how when I study kabbalah, I seem to get lost and distracted by my egoistic thoughts, but every day I do my best to expose myself to the wisdom.
- September 15, 2024 at 6:41 pm EDT #387692
Raymond Franklin
ParticipantWhat I found the most interesting is the idea that everything has an inner and outer “reality,” but that the inner (or upper) is ultimately what is Real.
- September 1, 2024 at 6:45 pm EDT #386219
Yusbel
ParticipantWould you said that we perceive reality differently because unfulfilled and fulfilled desires?
Would the point in the heart be associated with what we love and value? How love relates to desires?
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Yusbel.
- September 15, 2024 at 9:35 am EDT #387598
Albert – KabU Instructor
ModeratorHi Yusbel,
1. We perceive reality through the desire. If the desire is corrected towards love and bestowal, then we perceive the spiritual world. If the desire is still uncorrected, egoistic, then we perceive this world.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2016/12/fantasies-and-reality-part-5/
2. The heart symbolizes all of our desires. The point in the heart is a single desire, among all of our desires, which aspires towards spirituality.
Spiritual love is fulfilling the desire of someone else, meaning that it’s pure bestowal.
Albert @ KabU
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- July 28, 2024 at 5:10 pm EDT #382727
Brett
ParticipantI’m amazed at how similar Kabbalah is with Gnosticism. But instead of the wisdom of God (Sophia) running amuck and vicariously creating all of us through the Demiurge, we are the negative, or Egoic, reflection of the Upper Force. I’m also very curious as to what these 5 worlds are, exactly. Are these other worlds related to the Sephirot? Or how do these 5 worlds interact with or relate to the 10 emanations of the Sephirot?
My take is that these 5 worlds are a Kabbalistic cosmology, of sorts, like in Neoplatonism these upper worlds become purer and purer, closer to the true nature of the Upper Force or “the Endless.” And the worlds closer to us are coarser and less pure reflections of the Upper Force. Until you get down to us at the lowest or most impure form (i.e. the material world). However, in Neoplatonism this progression of higher realms from the material to the spiritual is very gradual, but in Gnosticism is very abrupt. I bet the Kabbalistic view lies somewhere in between these two extremes.
Further correlations to Gnosticism I found mind-blowing:
Our goal is to reunite with this Upper Force, or Ein Soph (to become like it): similar in Gnosticism through Gnosis our divine sparks are reunited with the Alien God to restore it to wholeness.
Autogenes Christ is the Adam Kadmon in the Gnostic system, which is a salvific figure (a spiritual psychopomp through which Gnosis is attained).
The Demiurge in Gnosticism can be thought of as the Cosmic ego in which our own egos are reflections of it.One interesting tidbit is that “the One” in Gnosticism seems to be in a crisis as in our world. It is often said that the Gnostic system is like this: “God went mad and became us.” Our goal then, is to heal this fracturing of the consciousness of the One to a state of wholeness. In Kabbalah, I don’t perceive the Upper Force as being in a state of crisis or explicitly needing our help. The Upper Force seems a bit indifferent, or quietly waiting for us to evolve to a state where we need it and want to unite with it.
Can’t wait to learn more about the metaphysical orientation of the Kabbalah!
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