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ClaraParticipantWhat does it mean to reject the Light and how do we do that? And do we mean the Creator when we say “light”?
ClaraParticipantI dared to say ‘holy spirit’ because I red this term many times in articles of Baal HaSulam and Rabash, even psalms mention it. Is not directly TES language, in which you are the expert. Also because of ‘my sons have defeted me’ – it’s more digestable to consider the Creator created a son, not just… something. And there is still that part which confuses me to the bottom: He created a will to receive, but there is a spark of bestowal in it, so the wtr is not ‘pure’ reception. That spark is it what is like Him – what else can be His real creation, His son -in my terms – if not Israel, the will to bestow? Where comes that spark of will to bestow, of the soul, from? Please tell me also which part of the 4 phases of direct Light – or maybe smth else – should I focus on, so that I get clarity? What is it what I don’t understand? Also thank you
ClaraParticipantWe’ve learned until now (taught by original sources and by dear instructor friends) that there are some difficult states in the process which are to overcome. For example there comes the state when one can admitt that everything is done by the Creator and experiences that he himself has no power and no freedom of choice whatsoever.
In that state there is no way other than to see the Creator as bad and false, like a tyrant who just runns everything destroying trumpling – and concealing -everything,. At that time one cannot see Him as the One Who is Good and Does Good. Then somehow this state might be linked with the thought “the Creator, the Torah and Israel are One”. This opposses the experience – where one sees friends who demand having control over one, like ignoring that one is anyway annuled, wanting to determine over one for their own satisfaction. That leads to losing the trust -faith – in the Creator, who seems to behave Himself like an animal. So then one cannot trust Him, the Creator , nor the friends, His Son – and there is only the Torah, like the only one holy, like the Holy Spirit. Then, probably through a miracle, one manages to just function holding tight on Torah.
Can this state be named as bestow in order to bestow and for Her sake?
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ClaraParticipantWhat is it ment when it is said ‘it’s all me’? On one hand is said ‘the Creator is behind the friends’, on the other hand is said ‘the friends are me/parts of me’.
When we say ‘there is none else besides Him’ – are we supposed to consider ourselves only the person living in the ‘own’ body plus an eventual single ‘own’ soul, or are we supposed to consider ourselves as all 8 billion+ (additionally all who have lived and all who will ever live in this world)Â people as one creature – and as THIS creature to say ‘there is none else besides Him’?
Are ‘other bodies + their souls’ now me, respectively the one who perceives and asks, or are they the Creator?
Sorry asking again basics. Is like here is still no clarity.
ClaraParticipantOk: how can the yearning of the friends for the Creator be increased and how can my yearning for the Creator be received by them – the way it is and to the same extent of strength it is?
ClaraParticipantAgain some tipping mistakes – while I mean I do care to type every letter right – Â don’t see well anymore, still don’t have new glases. However…
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