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Helen
Participantthis helps. thank you
Helen
ParticipantI am sorry to jump in as this is my question as well. before machsom we do not perceive the Creator, we can’t discuss with our corporeal circle, we are not allow to share descends and struggles that may have the potential to bring friends down, often it feels very lonely. maybe it’s different for man. is it okay to share with who are also on the journey but not in your Ten?
Helen
ParticipantI understand that the translation itself is part of one’s individual work, and I’m not asking for guidance on transforming specific deficiencies. My question is more about orientation: when egoistic deficiencies are revealed through corporeal pain, what is their correct place in the work? Should such deficiencies be brought to the Creator through prayer as they are? Should they be brought to the Ten as a general deficiency, without entering corporeal details? Or should one wait until these deficiencies are revealed directly in the spiritual work itself? How should I understand the correct “workflow” for relating to such revelations?
Helen
Participantthat clarifies the role of corporeal pain. My followup question is: when specific egoistic qualities are revealed through pain: for example insecurity, comparison, competitiveness ,etc. How should I correctly relate to these revelations in the work? not to aim to improve a corporeal problem but to transform those deficiencies to spiritual deficiencies that I can pray for correction?
Helen
ParticipantHi Gianni
Regarding prayer: I realize that almost all the prayers I can form come from knowledge, from what we read and what we are taught , rather than from an actual inner desire. In moments of suffering, whether in corporeal life or in the work in the Ten, my spontaneous prayer is always “why does it have to be this way?” or “please fix or change this.” Even when I pray for faith, for example, “give me the strength to believe that He is good who does good” , the inner intention is still to remove the pain caused by the lack of faith, not to bestow.
I see that I do not truly have a heartfelt prayer for bestowal itself. I recognize that I lack both the will and the power to bestow; I only have the knowledge that I should want it. Painful situations reveal this very clearly, and it is a difficult realization.
How should I correctly relate to this state? How does one move from prayers based on knowledge and suffering, toward a true prayer, if the desire itself is missing?
thanks
Helen
Helen
ParticipantHi Gianni
What is the correct use of corporeal pain in the work? I understand that corporeal situations are not the workplace of correction, but only raw material. How should I correctly bring this raw material into inner work? Is it correct to envision a more corrected inner state(only focus on intention?) , and from the gap between my current state and that inability to reach that new intention, form a true deficiency and prayer? How can corporeal pain be transformed into material for internal correction without turning it into psychological work or an attempt to fix corporeal life?
thanks
Helen
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