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Helen
ParticipantHi Gianni
the spiritual work, what’s the goal, how to get there is becoming more and more clear to us, I know we probably haven’t start the journey yet, but at least on intellectual level, things are getting more and more clear. As we can’t and shouldn’t apply the things we are learning in YG blindly in corporeal life, and we deal with all sorts of hardship in corporeal life, other than be able to understand it’s purpose and who is behind everything better, we nevertheless need to deal with it. I heard many times that we shouldn’t mix the two and in corporeal life we shall continue to live like an average normal person. My question is, as my inner quality starting to change, how can I continue to live like my old self? Â it’s like I put some frozen water under the sun, as it’s starting to melt a little, I put it back to the freezer again, corporeal is like a reverse action. Â it seems like spiritual work is more structured, more clear logic, like science, if you do A, you will get B, if you repeat enough times, you will get Z. but corporeal life is like tangled wires. it feels like both are real work, both are needed, but there is no remedy for corporeal life.
I guess I am not sure exactly what answers I am looking for , other than to share this “frustration” and “confusion”.
thanks
Helen
Helen
Participantwhat do I leverage on to increase the thoughts that I want? I mean how do I decide what I want? through thinking? which is not in my hands, is it?  you mentioned through the society, books, lessons, but I will have to decide to do those to start with, how do I decide? via desire/thoughts/emotions? but those are not in my hands..it’s a circle that doesn’t involve me it seems. where is ME?
Helen
ParticipantHi Gianni,
what do I use to build the desire and importance? desire is by creator, thoughts/emotions are by him as well, point in the heart is also by him. if it’s how I related to those thoughts/emotions, what do I use to relate to? not my 5 sense, not via thinking or feeling as those are from the creator. all those tools to change the intention and importance: thoughts, emotions, desire, point in the heart are all by creator, what exactly is my tool?
thanks
Helen
Helen
ParticipantHi Gianni, what’s the difference/connection between the original desire to receive that was created in Keter and Adam haRishon and the Kli we are trying to form right now? was there a Kli before Adam haRishon?, if not, what did the light fill? was there “conciseness” before Adam haRishon? if so, how did all those “realization” formed which led to “decisions” on rejecting light,  to only receive a portion,  to receive all there is?
thank you as always.
Helen
Helen
Participantsomething just clicked in me. is this Oneness referring to his form/quality, which is pure bestow, despite in our perception there are so many different qualities in opposites forms in this world as well as how we perceive him. when we acquire his quality, we will be becoming one with him in quality but we remain as different entities, he is the creator, we are the creature. Â am I close this time?
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Helen
Helen
ParticipantI am still trying to understand oneness. is it like the Creator includes all reality (and us), that is the Oneness. but the creature is only part of that Oneness. He is the whole oneness? But I thought the creature didn’t exist in the creator before he created it. the creation is existence from absence.
so what is this ONE referring to? and what’s the creature’s relationship to the ONE?
thanks
Helen
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