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Helen
ParticipantHi Gianni
“We say that ‘He is good who does good,’ and that all suffering comes only from the lack of equivalence of form.
But the entire system of concealment, along with the will to receive and the egoistic intention, was created by the Creator — not by the creature. Therefore, all the pain we experience because of concealment is also a result of His design, correct?I understand and accept that the intention behind this design is completely good, to bring us to the perfect state. But my question are Are we supposed to say that the pain itself is ‘from my perception,’ even though I did not choose the will to receive, the concealment, or the egoistic intention?
Is it correct to say that I justify the intention and the final result, but the actual pain still originates from the system He built?
Or must I also think that I am the one who caused these pains?
And  If I were corrected completely and the same events were to happen in this world(not the TEN but this corporeal world), would I truly feel no pain at all — only good?thanks
Helen
Helen
Participantthis helps a lot. thank you Gianni
Helen
ParticipantHi Gianni,
a few days ago I had a discussion with you on the logic of rules in the spirituality appear to be crystal clear but the corporeal life rules are fuzzy. I probably didn’t explain well why I think it’s fuzzy. of course there are some rules, such as when you are sick go see a doctor etc,  which are clear, but how to love your families/friends and other people is the area that’s very fuzzy to me.  so my question is, once you start the spiritual journey, in the Ten to learn about how to love your friends without expecting anything back, what’s  the purpose for corporeal life? other than to keep you alive to do the spiritual work? what’s purpose of all sort of relationships/hardships in corporeal life?  other than to continue to reveal my will to receive but not able to change anything? will what’s  fuzzy  now (in how to navigate corporeal life) become more clear as well?
thanks
Helen
Helen
ParticipantI don’t really know what that state is like, how can I behave as if I am in? all I can imagine is in that state, I will feel joy I have never felt and I will only think of the Creator and how to bring him joy.. but I do not have it, I don’t know what it means to behave like it, as I feel no joy and I do NOT think of the creator, nor do I know how to bring him joy as he is hidden from me. I am in complete darkness.
Helen
Participant” I don’t not want to be a wicked one, I want to justify you but I Â don’t know how to go above reason, please help me” , this is what I truly feel. is this the right prayer that will be answered? how do I know it’s answered?
appreciate your help
Helen
ParticipantI find myself trapped in “not able to justify the Creator” sometimes, especially seeing loved one suffering. Â I know it’s my will to receive, as it hurts me, as I have no solutions for their suffering. I know this is the time for faith above reason, but that’s on intellectual level, as I do not feel it. based on what I am learning, this is the time for true prayer, but I do not know what to pray for other than” please correct me”. I think that prayer is on intellectual level as well. it doesn’t seem like I am in a descend, as to pursue spiritually has been important to me. so probably I am wicked…but I do not know how to get out of this wicked state. I feel very sad to be a wicked one.
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