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    Gil
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    • #320256
      Jurgis
      Participant

      Hello!

      We had a workshop in our ten and there was idea / question what we are? Are we a desire?

      • #320350

        Hey Jurgis,

        Our teacher would often begin lessons with, “There are two forces in reality – the force of reception and the force of bestowal…” and then continue to expand. There’s a lot to this approach as it sets you back to the initial action in creation, where it began, and with what. It’s always good to “zero” out sometimes since we often get lost in our own confusion.

        So, if the Creator created the will to receive, then this is what we are, this is our root. “We”, as you asked, already implies there are “multiple” instances of this will to receive that the Creator created but we know, “He and His name are one” meaning, one Creator and one creature.

        What He created was the will to receive or the “desire” to receive pleasure. This is our nature, this is our root. What we are is desire to receive, just like anything and everything else in creation that is not the Creator – the will to bestow.

        What makes us similar to the Creator as this is the purpose of creation, is inverting the use of this will to receive to be like the quality of the Creator which is bestowing to His creatures. We “receive” in order to bestow. We have no other option, no other “material” to use besides what we have as our WTR, our desire – but how we use it is what the wisdom of Kabbalah teaches us which is to use it for the sake of the Creator instead of ourselves.

        Thanks!

        Chris

        • #320598
          Jurgis
          Participant

          So are we WTR that process neutral desire as a “material” but by default in “this world” with intention in order to receive for own self which we need to be corrected with help of Creator so that we gain an option to process neutral desire in order to bestow and by that have same properties with Creator and so merge with Him?

    • #319978
      Todd
      Participant

      Is the tree of life just varying ratios of reception and bestowel, connected to other ratios of reception and bestowel that change qualities based on which other sephirot they are connected to?

       

       

      • #319985

        Hey Todd,

        Everything is always ’10’ – no more and no less. The “changing’ factor has to do with the will to receive and how much is being used in order to bestow. This is equivalent to the light that is revealed. The “ratio” of the will to receive and the screen – Masach – which is the rejecting force that forbids only the amount of pleasure to enter that can be received in order to bestow is what’s at play. These “combinations” are certainly a different type of connection between the 10 Sefirot.

        Thanks!

        Chris

    • #319977
      Todd
      Participant

      Could the will to receive also be called the desire to receive?

       

      • #319984

        Hi Todd,

        The will to bestow cannot exist without its counterpart – the will to receive. It’s why Kabbalists write, “there is no light without a vessel.” or “there’s no Creator without a created being.” The two forces are opposite but also one – None Else Besides Him. That said, you can’t say that the will to receive is also the will to bestow, they are two separate things.

        Thanks!

        Chris

    • #319265
      steve
      Participant

      Hello

      Unlike the writings of Dr. Laitman which are easy to comprehend, I noticed Baal HaSulam at times writes in a style of repetition stating the same point each time but changes the object and words around,  making the reading more like a workout (especially for the dyslexic), “Forward to the Book of Zohar” for exp.  Is this on purpose, or just his style?

      Also, the website is rather difficult to use through my phone, is it because I’m using a 5 yr old IPhone?

      Thank you

      • #319382

        Hey Steve,

        Yes, it’s true BHS’s style is more complicated, but there is so much “meat” there to digest, reading once, ten times, 100 times is often not enough to fully digest what he intended the reader to consume. Dr. Laitman often says he still finds new things in his writings – so I imagine we too have a lot more to go.

        Regarding the website, yes, we are constantly working to improve it, but I would also check “use desktop version” if you’re having issues with the mobile version. The 5 y.o phone should not impact it so significantly. You may also want to try different browsers.

        Thanks!

    • #319263
      Jurgis
      Participant

      Hello!
      In our ten we where reading this text: kabbalahmedia.info/en/publications/blog/laitman-com/17889

      And could not understand what could Rav mean by word: ‘a wall’ in this sentence:

      Accordingly, all the prayers Kabbalah describes constitute man’s plea to be transformed. Who does one address these to, a wall? If the Creator is constant, eternal, and complete, then He doesn’t react to you in any way.

      Could you give us more explanation on this?

      Thank you!

      • #319381

        Hey Jurgis,

        Sounds like the meaning of “a wall” is like saying “to thin air” – as in, addressing nothing.

        Kabbalah teaches us about the forces of nature – which there are only two: reception and bestowal. We view the world through the quality of reception. Our will to receive is always “changing” and thus we perceive a moving, alive, world. In truth, our will to receive is being revealed to us more and more, opening up what was concealed and it seems to us that a moment “goes by” but this is just a change in state: lack -> fulfillment.

        The force of reception is always looking for fulfillment and this chase gives us the sensation of time, cause and effect, etc.. However, the influence on us is constant. Meaning, the Creator’s attitude is only one – “to do good to His creatures.” Until we can reach equivalence with that form, when we perceive the world through bestowal instead of reception, we’ll see there is no time since He is above time and this world where there was such a concept it was only an illusion – “we were as dreamers.”

        So when we refer to addressing the Creator and expecting some kind of reaction, some kind of change or response, it’s not that there is a change on the side of the Creator, rather the change is an internal one within us – more of our nature is revealed to us (consciously or unconsciously) and we have to work with that new addition and correct it.

        It’s something that eventually we all will feel and become accustomed to this kind of “interaction”. We don’t know what it means that He is in us and we are in Him and slowly coming to this recognition takes many many states – and ultimately time. Each moment is precious since it’s the exact moment we need to progress to the revelation of truth.

        Best of luck!

        Chris

    • #319054
      Scott
      Participant

      I’m now beginning week 2 of Kabbalah in Action, but I also see that the “Kabbalah Experience” course is available to start as well. Should I start that one now or is it better to wait? Thanks and best regards, Scott

      • #319105

        Hey Scott,

        It’s preferred you continue with the course and wait. There’s an issue here that’s currently being looked at.

        Thanks!

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