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    Gil
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    • #220121
      Donald
      Participant

      Hello all,

      Im just sitting here contemplating my experiences in my life up to this point and wondering how they fit into Kabbalah. So far what I have learned about the wisdom of Kabbalah has been fascinating, compelling, thought provoking. However, I have come to some of these realizations through other means that also have not relied on my five senses. Is there some overlap between methods of all spiritual practices? This is what I have always found with religion. Its different ideologies trying to explain the same story. My practices with deep meditation, psychedelic substances, sensory deprivation have all seemingly granted me access to some form of other dimension that is separate from the senses and physical world. I am just curious how the wisdom of Kabbalah would interpret these experiences.

      • #220124

        Hi Donals,

        Any other method would have just explored more aspects of your egoistic reality which will inevitably end with the same kind of unfulfillment since we were created to discover and be fulfilled by spiritual pleasures and not egoistic ones. Undoubtedly those experiences in other methods would have been necessary to prepare you to march on the path that brings you closer to the quality of bestowal. Sometimes those paths become attractive again and you find there’s still more there to explore. In this case, a person is taken off the path and sent to wander around a bit more, but ultimately, everyone has a point in the heart that must be realized.

        Thanks!

        Chris

    • #220013
      Niklas
      Participant

      From a Kabbalistic perspective would you say that the following video accurately depicts the search for fulfillment in egoistic desires and the inevitable subsequent realization that they are empty (i.e. can never fulfill one lastingly)?

      https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPBtzjFnhvk25cSHTMs_NojLOiyfDgxg_dG34uL

      If so, then what is the purpose of the egoistic pursuit for a Kabbalist or somebody who is just starting to learn about Kabbalah? Is it only to realize over and over again that the egoistic desires cannot be fulfilled? Is there a shortcut, that is, are we somehow able to realize that a new (stronger) egoistic desire won’t bring fulfillment anyway and so it is not worth pursuing it or do we have to tangibly experience the inherent emptiness of ALL our egoistic desires?

      • #220123

        Hi Niklas,

        Good question. No there’s no shortcut, there’s only hastening of the process – how quickly can you go through the states you necessarily need to go through. There’s no way to become “big” to be able to climb the wall. The process is that you become big, take a step over the wall, and then encounter the next wall which is higher, but this is what builds in us the correct emotional impressions and we work through them consciously. We’re supposed to experience every detail of reality and on the path towards opening up the infinite reality which is currently concealed, we need to discover our complete disconnection to it first.

        Thanks!

        Chris

        • #220130
          Niklas
          Participant

          Thanks.

          At first I was mad at this reply, but now I am happy.

          It is both shit and reassuring. Shit because nothing can be skipped (although I often sought out uncomfortable situations voluntarily because I felt that I need to go through it anyway). Reassuring because it means that you can’t really go wrong. But then again, we shouldn’t linger too much on this, lest the path of suffering needs to push us from behind again.

        • #220240

          Well of course, there’s definitely reassurance in it. It’s really a matter of relinquishing control. The faster you can discover this in your own senses that you’re completely governed from above. In the moment it feels that we have to act and make some decision, which is something we have to feel, while the next moment we look back and see it wasn’t me that acted there.

          It’s not that the path is rewarding to the ego, at first it is, but the more you advance the pleasure evolves from wanting the “sweetness”, the pleasure for the ego – to wanting “truth” – no matter what the ego prefers, you’re fulfilled by coming closer to truth. The ego is important here since without it you wouldn’t have this discernment. So it’s a great and necessary component to direct us correctly on the path. Eventually, you’re able to have the strength to only acknowledge how you “feel” and rise above what feels good or bad and focus where the heart is aimed, and “to who do I want to bring pleasure” becomes the intention and this is already a great help from above.

          Best of luck,

          Chris

        • #220269
          Niklas
          Participant

          Thank you very much!

          I might have had some experiences with this “seeking of truth above pleasure and pain”. It is the sweet opening of something outside me that comes, when I direct my thoughts towards bringing pleasure to others. It is not really that it is rewarding per se. It is more like “doing it is enough for the sake of doing it”. In that, everything is already good.

          Currently, my life is blowing up (positively) on all imaginable fronts. Dude! Currently, I am just working off my task list from morning to night. I work according to the following priorities:

          1. Getting the new (amazing) job (neither praised nor condemned)
          2. Study a bit of Kabbalah each day
          3. Everything else

          Thank you very much and I am very excited to soon join you in the Graduate Environment.

      • #220015
        Niklas
        Participant

        Unfortunately, I cannot edit my original post. Here is the original version: https://youtu.be/HUngLgGRJpo

    • #219578
      humehr garivani
      Participant

      Can you give some examples of bestow and communication that one can do at home?

      • #220122

        Hi Humehr,

        There are principles you can take from the path here and apply them at home, it certainly helps to promote “peace” at home, but since your spiritual work is really with those who have the same goal and they aren’t part of your family with whom you have some natural connection with already where you need to work with these “strangers” to your soul and bring them closer to reveal the Creator, there’s no real place for spiritual work with those in your house.

        The principles are also things you would hear about if you were to go to a therapist or counselor where they’d tell you how to relate to them and how to keep the peace and work through issues. Things like lowering yourself, listening, giving an example for how to do those things etc..

        Thanks!

        Chris

    • #219455
      Danielle Vergonet
      Participant

      Dear all,

      I am since a little while in the graduate enviremonet and i am loving it. I am so grateful to be here.
      My study feels currently like  a chaos. I am very busy during the week with work. But I do feel the
      desire to read the books and to listen to the recorded lessons of Dr. Rav Michael Laitman. But because its busy its diffcult to  really dive into it. It feels like all scattered pieces of information I learn. I want some structure.

      How do other people do this? How to organize the study. I am not in a 10 yet, but loving the get in one.
      It feels a bit I am studing with a rush because there is so much to learn.

      I mostly the two lessons I am joining on tuesday with Yerganat & Joseph and Sunday with friends.
      But I do want a daily routine with Kabbalah. I am very curious how you do in and if there are any tips?

      Kind regards,
      Danielle Vergonet

      • #219807

        Hey Danielle,

        I know there are other events to join such as Weekly Portions of Light and on top of that you’ll soon receive an invite to the Young Group which will help build your “routine” you’re looking for.

        There are also plenty of recordings to check out from the Grad class with Mike and Zohar along with Pticha. Sunday is also another meeting with Tony and Zohar.

        All these are at your disposal and you’ll get even more as you continue to acclimate to the “environment” here.

        Thanks!

        Chris

    • #219412
      Sam Ben-Yosaif
      Participant

      Hello, do we learn the 10 Sefirot here or the 4 worlds? What all do we learn? Can someone give me a comprehensive list of topics? Just want to make sure I’m in the right place.

      • #219791

        Hi Sam,

        After you complete these courses and move to the Graduate Environment, you’ll be invited to Pticha (Preface to the Wisdom of Kabbalah) where you’ll be exposed to all of this material including live lessons as well as recorded ones.

        Thanks!

        Chris

    • #219225
      humehr garivani
      Participant

      hi

      i get tired after pray (islamic pray).

      is it normal?

      • #219789

        Hi Humehr,

        Not sure what prayers you’re talking about. In Kabbalah we don’t refer to a prayer as something you recite or read. However any time you’re making efforts to think about something outside of your ego the body will reject it and you might feel this as being tired. But again, we can’t give any feedback on anything not related to Kabbalah.

        Thanks!

        Chris

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