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    Gil
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    • #462367
      Adam
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      If in our original state of unity with the creator it was “good” and we in perfect one-ness, what was the need to have us be separated for the sake of giving us independence? Why make us go through the shattering and the suffering just for us to make our way back to the original state? What is the value of us having that independence/that conscious choice? Would it not be better to have kept things that way in a state of ignorance and bliss? Also if the creator is a force and not a personal god, why do we say that it has a “master plan” – the way a person or a primitive God has plans?

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      • #462381

        He is a force, and you are also a force, or a collection of forces that imagines that it is free. He’s not a ‘dumb’ force like we think about gravity, for example. He is more than us and all of us put together. A different kind of force. We’re in a reality consisting of nothing besides forces, and He includes all of them. He is, in the end, the only one acting. Through a more correct lens, we’d see there is no one in the world – because to live means to be free and here there are only complete marionettes.

        It is said that all this reality was just an ‘adornment’. The Creator didn’t need it. But a decision was made that we need it, and, that it was all worth it. And now, our work is easy. It’s said that the Creator made man straight, but he preferred circuitous ways. We make it hard by not wanting to be corrected right away, but prefer anything besides coming to correction.

    • #462336
      Ayesha
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      If someone hurts us then how to recover our peace of mind???… What does Kabbalah say about it??

       

      • #462378

        First, we have to say to ourselves that “there is none else besides Him,” the Creator did, does, and will do everything, and there are no people in this world who have free choice of their own. There is only an imagination of free choice. You don’t have free choice, they didn’t have free choice. Rather, the whole reality is how the Creator behaves toward you alone. That’s the way it really is. First, this needs to be accepted in you. Next, you behave toward the situation as is generally accepted as appropriate in society. If someone did something you usually sue for, I sue them – and so on. But inside, I relate as if all is done by the Creator.

    • #462098
      #Lesedi
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      What does Kabbalah say about angels 😇???? Do they really protect us??can they see the other world’s that we cannot see👀 explained in Kabbalah(Assiah.Beriyah.yetzriah.atziluth))

      • #462105

        An angel is a force. Gravity is an angel. There are other such forces. All of them work for only one goal: to bring each person and all of humanity together, to be as one body. There is nothing else going on in reality.

    • #460705
      Sally
      Participant

      Thank you. J understand faith below reason and faith.in the sages. You had explained the three instances few weeks ago. And thanks to you I got that. It is the faith above reason that is throwing me. I am sure it will.be clarified the.more I read. Thank you again

      • #460713

        Faith Above Reason is a force of bestowal. The other two just need to be explained, because you understand those states from experience, while Faith Above Reason can’t be explained because it’s beyond one’s experience in this world.

    • #460698
      Sally
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      When I first started studying Kabbalah there were several lessons on the ladder and the levels going up and down. When I was reading those lessons I was getting better but still not great. Now i want to review those passages but Im not sure in which material they were discussed in in the most detail. Could you send me some links as that information isnt real clear to me also. I’ve found passages but I think there were more detailed passages that Ihaven’t found.

      Thank you,

      • #460714

        For me the whole wisdom is about ascents and descents, so I’m not sure which texts you refer to.

        • #461245
          Sally
          Participant

          The reason you couldn’t find the text is that I did not clarify correctly. I had read an excerpt from Baal Hasulam on the wisdom of Kabbalah .he spoke of conducts from above downward and below upward. He talked about wisdom being composed of roots that hang down by way of causes and consequences. After indeed it again it is all much more clear to.me. I think I need to re read everything I read before to get it straight in.my mind.
          Thank you very much for your help and kindness.

    • #460696
      Sally
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      Dear Friends In a passage in one of the readings from Kabbalah Revealed, Implenting Free Choice, it stated that the usual definition of the word ‘faith’ is opposite to the definition of ‘faith’ when kabbalists talk about it. Ive re read that a times and think i understand but when i go back i realize i really don’t.
      of Thank you, Sally

      • #460697

        Faith is used in several ways in Kabbalah. There is faith below reason, which is the ordinary religious definition: I believe because it’s what I was told. It’s not that I was told by someone who knows from their experience. There is also faith in the sages, which is that I follow the experience of one who personally attained the Creator. And finally there is faith above reason, which is bestowal that is called above reason because I attain bestowal above my quality of reception, called reason.

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