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    Gil
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    • #426837
      Brad
      Participant

      judaism teaches that Abraham kept halacha before the Torah was given, this is some sort of attempt to prove he was “religious”, and that judaism is the way, not buying it.  what does it really mean that he kept the mizvots and even the halacha?

      • #427052

        We know that Torah and Mitzvot are the components in the correction of the soul, this is the light that reforms and the action of correction. There’s no sequence of time—before/after….the system was created and those who attained the system know the laws of the upper world and how they work on the will to receive.

        • #427194
          Brad
          Participant

          so, are you saying that what Judaism calls the branches of the spiritual roots, the physical halacha, did not exist in that time,  but he somehow knew? Does there have to be a branch before one understands the root? Isn’t a branch somehow always physically manifested in this world?

        • #427383

          Correct, but attaining those roots necessarily points to the branches in this world but that doesn’t mean a ‘book’ needed to be written.

        • #427413
          Brad
          Participant

          So, that means he “did” actually do what judaism claims, he practiced the physical mitzvah’s but the key difference with Abraham is that he went from above downwards, rather than, below upwards?  Whereas Judaism today puts most importants on the branch instead of the root,  Am I getting that right?

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    • #426501
      Brad
      Participant

      Is there such a thing as non jewish souls and jewish souls? You told me about the mixing of the nations and israel in the shattered soul, is there an article from The Baal Hasulam or anyone that talks specifically about this? Need sources, asking for a friend.

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      • #426830

        Hey Brad,

        Can you clarify what you mean by “Jewish soul”? Also, this isn’t really a term used in Kabbalistic writings. Typically this is referred to as “Israel”. Is that what you mean?

        • #426836
          Brad
          Participant

          Discussing with a friend, The claim is “Nefesh elokis (or divine soul) and the nefesh behamis, animal soul, everyone has the latter but only a jew has the divine soul.” This is taken from the Tanya, kabbalah, (i know, you don’t encourage outside sources and that is fine, because I don’t actually read the Tanya.) my guess is,  to reconcile our different views, is that, its simply a spiritual transition. A jew is a stage needed to be “developed” , people get confused thinking of “jew” is being limited to physicality, Got Any sources that would prove the opposite or merge the two ideas?

          thanks Chris. Btw, I Love the podcast with Seth and Asaf.

        • #427051

          <p style=”direction: ltr;”>Ah ok yes. Well the best way to answer would be from the ‘zoomed out’ approach where you have to ask what did the Creator create? Once you realize He created only one thing–the will to receive–and then ask, why? The reason being that He wanted to “do good to His creating beings” that wouldn’t omit any part of creation.</p>
          The difference you’re asking about is simply a matter of perspective. Within each one of us there is the ability to develop the soul, otherwise there would not be a way to reveal “His goodness”.  Why is the Jew singled out here? Because the work of the Jew is different, as you by now know. It’s the difference in the root of this soul–what the role is. The entire creature depends on the work of Israel which is why Israel judges the world to a scale of merit or not.

    • #425714
      Yiskah
      Participant

      I am halachic Jew, but was raised secular. I’ve found a lot of inspiration in my studies of Kabbalah and feel a pull to become more observant and celebrate the Holy Days. Do I have a responsibility to mitzvot as a Jew? I feel a bit lost as to where my place is in the world. Doesn’t help that I live in a very rural area with no community nearby. Appreciate your answers!

      • #426144

        Hi Yiskah! I remember seeing you in the TGT chat.

        You do whatever you’re drawn to. The main this is getting the intention right during whatever actions we’re performing 🙂 The Kabbalist wanted to have an excuse to always think of the Creator…there are many actions they call practical or physical Mitzvot which have spiritual roots to them and by performing them a person doesn’t become any more spiritual it’s the intention which is called “action”. There are special “times” called holidays that Kabbalists took very seriously and do significantly influence us during that “time”.

        Thanks!

    • #424778
      amos
      Participant

      Hi all
      I am new to the group, and I have a few questions that might get answered here, so thank you for your time.
      1. people whose all their being is: ” service to others” and love and help others and volunteering to social causes, but they don’t keep the mitzvot of the Tora , are they going to hell? (if by Rabbi Akiva , the whole Tora in one sentence is “Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself”).

      2. How Kabbalah deals with the phenomena of OBE ( out of body experience) ?

      3. many in the mainstream of the scientific community are getting to the conclusion that we all live in a “simulation” .
      How does Kabbalah deal with the simulation theory ?

      4. Is time continuous or discrete?

      5. If the Universe is expanding, what it is expanding into? or simply put, if I travel to the end of the Universe and cross that line , where am I ?

      6. Is a black Hole an outlet to another Universe?

      7.I hear scientists talk about the “big bang” was not the birth of our Universe and that the Universe always existed and the “big bang” was an event that is one of a series of “big bangs” in the life of our Universe. whats the Kabalah opinion on that as many Kabbalists talk about the “big bang” as the birth of our Universe.

      8. The evolution theory works wonderfully from the first cell onward, but nobody knows where the first cell came from .
      The best scientists today with all the most sophisticated modern equipment can’t “build” a single cell even if they are given all the components of the cell like ” DNA, RNA, ATP, MITOCHONDRIA and the rest of the cell components etc . So who put the first cell on Planet earth?

      9. If People keep mitzvot just because its a tradition in their family but they are not familiar with the meaning and the intentions of the mitzvot , are they going to hell ? after all they pray , they go to the shul every day and keep all the mitzvot without the meaning of it just because he grew up in that family and he continues the tradition.

      10.If we study Kabbalah and and invest in Kabbalah only , are we covered by God’s will for us ? or we have to study Talmud as well?

      11. Does studying Kabbalah raise our frequency?

      Thank you so much for youe time
      best regards

      Amos cohen ❤️🌼🌷

      • #426143

        Hi Amos, welcome!

        1. If by T&M you’re referring to drawing the light that reforms in order to correct your intention to from reception to bestowal, then yes–you will see a world without the Creator and this is considered “hell”
        2. It doesn’t really relate to it. It’s not considered correction of the ego, yet it’s known there are these types of experiences that add to the overall experience a person has in this world.
        3. Sure, this is the natural trend of those who research our reality. Kabbalah says we’re here in order to reveal that actually, everything I see outside of me is truly inside of me and I just didn’t see it that way the whole time–“we were as dreamers”
        4. Time is a “feature” of the human experience only.
        5. This is technically just a theory. We may discover something else is actually happening…
        6. There are many unknown phenomena that Kabbalah doesn’t relate to regarding our physical world…maybe one day we will know
        7. If you always revert back to how Kabbalah explains perception of reality and that the entire universe exists only within us, then we can’t even say that this is something that happened at a certain “time” since time applies to how we perceive reality and not to how it actually is.
        8. This is where science hits a proverbial “wall” where no matter how much we research reality, the acting mind, the single force that develops the will to receive is hidden and we don’t see why the still can produce the vegetative (and why), why vegetative produces the animate etc.
        9. Kabbalah doesn’t refer to “hell” as a place or something that exists after death. This is a perception one has when they are disconnected from the Creator. We don’t feel we are in hell since there is nothing to compare it to, but once we begin to rise we’ll see this is where we were–the worst experience a human can have.
        10. God is a force of love and bestowal, and this attitude doesn’t change. Until we reach and fulfill the purpose of creation, we will continue to dress into these bodies which disconnect us from knowing Him, where we perform corrections in order to know disconnection and connection and we have tools–sources given to us by Kabbalists and these help us draw the light that reforms.
        11. It brings us to equivalence of form.
        • #426596
          amos
          Participant

          Hi Chris
          Thank you so much for your wise answers.
          Regarding question number 5, are you arguing that the Universe is not expanding? and if something else is happening, what might that be?
          regarding question number 4, I know that time is a feature of humans or the matrix or our 3D world but that wasn’t my question. my question is, is time continuous or discrete? because if time is discrete what happens between time bits ?
          because time does not exist under Plank’s time size (which is 10^⁻³⁴ sec.) so the universe doesn’t exist under Plank’s time which supports the theory that time is discrete.
          regarding question number 8, since Kabbalah has a path to the ultimate objective truth, it must have the ability to explain phenomena that science hasn’t been able to answer yet, so according to Kabbalah, where did the first cell came from?
          regarding question number 7, I know that everything happens within our subjective POV of the world but still we have a collective base POV of reality and Kabbalah doesn’t intend to disproof science and as a matter of a fact, it walks “hand in hand” with science, so science hasn’t decided yet if our Universe always existed or it began with the “big bang”,
          so, which is it?
          regarding question number 11, the creator’s frequency is infinite, how likely is that humans in a finite form can equate form with the creator?
          thank you for your time, I really appreciate your wonderful work in this framework.
          Amos

        • #426777
          amos
          Participant

          continue from the last page:

          See, Chris

          At scales smaller than Planck time/length, the classical notion of spacetime breaks down
          Space and time become subject to quantum fluctuations so violent that the very concepts lose their meaning
          This suggests that our universe might have a fundamental “pixelation” or granularity 

          Below Planck Scale, the distinction between space and time becomes meaningless, Quantum fluctuations dominate,
          Classical causality breaks down, our normal concepts of “before” and “after” may not apply.
          The universe might exist in a state of quantum foam, where particles of matter and antimatter are constantly created and destroyed. Which means that “nothing” doesn’t exist, instead we get quantum foam.

          Which means that Reality might be fundamentally discrete rather than continuous
          The smooth space time we experience might be an emergent phenomenon
          Similar to how a movie appears continuous but is actually made of discrete frames.

          Now, the discrete nature of space time at the Planck scale could affect consciousness, free will, and causality:

          If consciousness operates at quantum scales, the discrete nature of time might affect how we experience reality
          Our perception of continuous consciousness might be an emergent phenomenon from discrete quantum states
          (Similar to how a movie appears fluid despite being made of discrete frames)
          The “now” moment might be a minimum quantum of conscious experience.

          If reality is fundamentally discrete, what happens to determinism?
          Quantum indeterminacy at Planck scales might provide “gaps” where free will could operate
          However, these gaps might be too small to influence macro-scale decision making
          The discrete nature might actually support a more deterministic universe since there are finite possible states.

          Classical causality assumes continuous chains of events
          In discrete spacetime, causality might work more like a digital system
          Events would progress in minimal “ticks” of Planck time
          No events could occur “between” these ticks.

          If our decisions occur in discrete time steps
          There might be a fundamental unit of decision-making,This could affect how we think about moral responsibility.

          Brain processes might leverage quantum effects
          Discrete time could affect quantum coherence in neural systems
          This might influence how information is processed in consciousness, and this Could explain aspects of subjective experience we talked in the previous paragraph.

          Penrose and Hameroff suggest that consciousness arises from quantum processes in microtubules within neurons.Quantum coherence might only be possible during specific Planck time “ticks”
          Consciousness might operate in discrete “frames” aligned with these quantum states
          The collapse of quantum states might be synchronized with Planck time units.

          Observer effects might be quantized.

          I’d love to hear your input on that, please.

        • #426968
          amos
          Participant

          continue: from the last page: “Observer effect might be quantized”

          1. This would imply that observation occurs in discrete steps rather than continuously.

          2. It challenges our notion of objective reality, suggesting that reality might be fundamentally observer-dependent.

          3.It could imply a more active role of consciousness in shaping physical reality

    • #423388
      Brad
      Participant

      I understand that Israel is not a nationality and jew means yehudi, unity with the Creator, can you elaborate on “why a non Jew would have israel in them”?

      • #424713

        Hey Brad,

        That was the mixing between the nations of the world after the ruin of the vessel. Those points divided and spread apart to seep into all the other parts of the broken vessel. That Reshimo still exists and is will always be called Isa-el.

        Chris

    • #420500
      Luke
      Participant

      In the past 2 live sessions the topic of Judaism was discussed and one KabU instructor expressed that Jewish people in Israel are the ones rising to the top of the mountain uniting with the creator . But so are many non Jews that are studying kabbalah world wide so I don’t know why that wasn’t mentioned or emphasized either. I was reading Dr latimans article on the Torah and he said the Torah is written using 3 languages one of them being Jewish halakah which is Jewish law does that mean we have to follow Jewish law relating to Torah ? . I respect the Jewish people but I have no interest in religion and I have met many Jewish rabbis that say kabbalah is nonsense but it’s “Jewish nonsense”. So with this in mind why is Judaism being re-intertwined when Rav Latiman has said explicitly that kabbalah pre-dates religion. In the Larry king interview he says that, no kabbalah is not Judaism.
      It’s been exhausting trying to understand this I thought the word “Jew” referred to anyone who is working with the point in the heart and not a person performing rituals. And are Jewish people really the “Chosen” people that are above the rest of humanity. If someone studies kabbalah would it not make more sense that, that person is also “chosen” in the sense they are doing the work in kabbalah. When Judaism gets put into the classes I just get confused again. But I can’t find this anywhere in Rav latimans books or Rav Ashlags. On the contrary when I read Rav Ashlags writings I find this beautiful sense of urgency he has to bring kabbalah far and wide to every single individual. But am I missing something?
      Btw I write this in the most non combative way possible… Sadly the internet rips out human contact and emotions so things can be easily misunderstood. It’s a genuine question and one I’m confused on a lot. We are told to remove all our previous concepts about Torah and kabbalah etc but when all this gets brought up I just get confused again and it’s like I have to go back down to 0 and start investigating all over again 😮‍💨

      • #421256

        <p style=”text-align: left;”>Hey Luke, I get it, feeling confused when trying to reconcile different perspectives on Kabbalah and its relationship with Judaism. It’s just an atypical approach, as if needing to unlearn all kinds of preconceived notions.</p>
         

        Kabbalah indeed predates organized religion and is a universal wisdom meant for all humanity. It focuses on the inner spiritual work of correcting one’s desires to align with the Creator’s qualities so the term “Jew” in Kabbalistic terms refers to anyone who has awakened the “point in the heart” and is striving towards spiritual unity with the Creator, regardless of their cultural or religious background.

         

        The mention of Jewish law or Halakha in the context of Kabbalah is often symbolic. Kabbalists like Rav Laitman and Baal HaSulam emphasize the inner, spiritual meanings behind these laws rather than their literal observance. The Torah, when studied through the lens of Kabbalah, is seen as a guide to spiritual development rather than a set of religious rules.

         

        Regarding the concept of the “Chosen People,” Kabbalah teaches that this refers to a spiritual mission rather than superiority. It signifies a responsibility to achieve spiritual correction and to serve as a conduit for spreading the light of Kabbalah to all nations. Anyone who engages in this spiritual work is, in essence, fulfilling this mission. Anyone

         

        We certainly wouldn’t advertise the method of correction to be accessible to anyone and then demand some kind of conversion…

      • #421213
        Anthony
        Participant

        I want to know the answer too

        • #421262
          Luke
          Participant

          Thanks Chris for clarifying. It can be a really confusing topic at times.

        • #421261
          Anthony
          Participant

          Thank you for your response. This gave me the fuel to persevere.

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