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A group of us do these lessons together and a question came up as we were reading the Shamati :
What is the difference between a Kli and a Soul?
To know that there is nothing beside him and to tell ourselves that our work resides only in intention. How can we keep ourselves in action to reveal the creator in the corporeal world on a daily basis without adopting an attitude of passivity ?
Guy,
This is an excellent question that each one asks himself, “If He is doing everything, then why don’t I just sit on the couch all day?”
The truth is that there are two things here. 1. He is doing everything. 2. He wants us to feel that without our efforts we won’t achieve anything.
It’s confusing, because in our world, we do efforts and expect to see results. In spirituality it is not so. In spirituality we do efforts not to get the results, but in order to feel that at the end of all of the efforts, without help from Above we cannot reach eternity.
The mind is not eternal and the Creator is eternal, so we can’t naturally understand Him with our mind, so this process accustom us to come close to Him correctly.
Read this response a few times, think about and write out those two conditions for yourself in your notebook and think about it.
Seth@KabU
Sorry, I tried to edit to add but couldn’t. Also:
Is the general state of the soul of Adam Harishon related to the soul of individual man? (apologies if my words are incorrect). So the greater the distance between Adam and the creator, the grater the perceived distance between an individual and the creator. As the collective soul of humanity is uplifted the suffering on the individual level will be less?
Victoria,
I don’t really understand your question, you are using words that we don’t understand yet together. The soul of Adam HaRishon is the collective, common soul. That is our soul, all of us, everyone. It was broken. Actually itself is not broken, but the connection between the pieces is broken and each one is covered in many layers of concealment and we all feel ourselves as individuals.
Advancing spiritually means that we are making more and more corrections to unite those pieces and if you make corrections in you, then that piece of you that exists in all others, like in a hologram, that piece is also corrected in them. And likewise as others correct their part, that part of them that is in you is also corrected and by this we are all helping each other, speeding up our development and moving the correction to internal, spiritual corrections instead of slow, painful corporeal corrections.
Seth@KabU
Thank you for this course. Deep down I knew there was a way of looking at all sciences that would make them make sense.
My question is this. Some religions and movements have popularised the idea of ‘lesser’ beings, angels, demons etc. Am I right in thinking then that ‘there is none else besides him’ would mean that these are not a thing in spiritual reality? That the things we call demons are actually a part personification of internal psychological processes? And that people in the times of old scripture didn’t have the language to describe these things so used a kind of allegory?
Or is it a little more complicated than that but for now just trust it will be revealed in time?
Victoria,
All of these things have a place, but the definitions that we heard prior to the wisdom of kabbalah are not the same definitions that the kabbalists write. First we need to learn that a kabbalist only writes from his attainment, there is no philosophy or theory about what any of the words mean or may mean.
You are correct that if everything is Him, meaning there is no force that can act against Him, then what are these other forces.
And for that, it will be helpful to begin to look at these words as kinds of forces, for example when the water falls on the earth we call it gravity. When the water rises from the earth we call it evaporation. Forces operate that cause things to rise and causes things to fall…in our world. Neither force is called good or bad, in fact they act together in harmony to keep the system in balance.
As we learn about the spritual system, we will encounter all kinds of forces, but there is no force that operates against Him, all of them extend from Him.
Anything that seems like it is against Him is a testament to our degree, how far we are that we feel that way, and anyone who wrote about a force that is against Him, it is a testament to their degree of attainment that they didn’t reach a degree where all is one.
Seth@KabU
so it is only our will to receive  is not a part of the collective soul ?
i mean , the only part that would make take us apart form the god is our ego?
why ?
isn’t it the truth that god made us look like this?Pier,
The Creator has a problem. He wants to give us eternal fulfillment. The problem is that if we are given eternal fulfillment then we would be immediately and completely absorbed inside of Him as One. Imagine on the one hand you have your life, on the other hand you have eternal pleasure billions of times more than anything you every felt. Is there any question which way you would choose? So we would have no free choice, we would be like a spark in the sun, or a drop of water in the ocean, completely absorbed into Him and in that state, there is no us, there is no creature who feels himself as unique and who feels the Creator. In that state, everything is One with no boundaries.
So what did He do? He made us opposite from Him, we feel ourselves as individuals. This is the starting place. Now we can learn to work with the screen and reflected light and step by step come closer to Him. By this we can receive all of the abundance that He wants to give us and on the other hand not loose our identity and we will be able to feel Him in all of His glory.
Seth@KabU
Seth,
Is it possible we can find in this lesson from Tony, also, a description from the language of roots of the first Commandment as in Exodus 20:3 and Deuteronomy 5:7 “You shall have no gods except Me” and what expressed  in Exodus 20:4 to 20:7
Marcelo,
Here is a blog post from Rav Laitman regarding “You shall have no other god…” https://kabbalahmedia.info/en/publications/blog/laitman-com/232882We will open up all of your questions. For now, it is better that you ignite the flames of desire in your questions than we extinguish them with clever answers.
Write down you questions and let the desire to know burn inside, this is the foundation of a correct prayer and that is our most powerful weapon in spirituality.
Seth@KabU
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