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    • #315407
      Gabor
      Participant

      Hi.,

      According to Kabbalah are there multiple lifetimes?

      How can be so sure?

      Thank you!

      • #315459

        Hi Gabor,

        Kabbalists explain to us that there is a goal of creation. This goal is preset, we have no choice there, we must reach it. If we don’t reach it in this lifetime, then we, (or more precisely our point in the heart) will continue to reincarnate again and again until we fully reach that goal.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: http://laitman.com/2015/06/what-happens-to-the-soul-after-death/

        Baal HaSulam explains it briefly in the article “The Peace“, here’s an excerpt:

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        The Wheel of Transformation of the Form
        First, let me present the view of our sages concerning the unfolding of the generations of the world: Although we see the bodies changing from generation to generation, this is only the case with the bodies. But the souls, which are the essence of the body’s self, do not vanish, to be replaced, but move from body to body, from generation to generation. The same souls that were at the time of the flood came also during the time of Babylon, and in the exile in Egypt, and in the exodus from Egypt, etc., until this generation and until the end of correction.

        Thus, in our world, there are no new souls the way bodies are renewed, but only a certain amount of souls that incarnate on the wheel of transformation of the form, for each time they clothe a new body and a new generation.

        Therefore, with regard to the souls, all generations since the beginning of creation to the end of correction are as one generation that has extended its life over several thousand years until it developed and became corrected as it should be. And the fact that in the meantime, each has changed his body several thousand times is completely irrelevant because the essence of the body’s self, called “the soul,” did not suffer at all by these changes.

        And there is much evidence pointing to that, and a great wisdom called “the secret of the incarnation of the souls.” And while this is not the place to explain it, because of the great importance of the matter, it is worthwhile to point out to the uneducated that reincarnation occurs in all the objects of the tangible reality, and each object, in its own way, lives an eternal life.

        Although our senses tell us that everything is transient, it is only how we see it. In fact, there are only incarnations here, and each item is not still and does not rest for a moment, but incarnates on the wheel of transformation of the form, losing nothing of its essence along its way, as physicists have shown.

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        Albert @ KabU

        • #315469
          Amirhossein
          Participant

          I once heard in one of related videos that the people of Israel spread through the world to spread the point in the heart and I wondered is it hereditary?
          If it is, What if I developed in some point in spirituality and never have children. How Will it still reincarnate?

          Or was it just the matter of spreading their ideas?

        • #315616

          Hi Amirhossein,

          It’s not directly hereditary. We can see it on ourselves. After all, how many people in our family have active points in the heart? From the hundreds of people in my family circles, I’m the only one interested in studying Kabbalah. It’s the same for most people with active points in the heart.

          Albert @ KabU

    • #312729
      Cat
      Participant

      Is there any clarification available on identifying where we are driven by the will to receive’s calculation ?

      Where as in what areas of our life (everywhere…) ?

      Where as in our mind, heart ?

      Feeling confused.

      Thank you.

      • #312777

        Hi Cat,

        Our nature is the will to receive pleasure. Meaning that we’re constantly calculating how to get more pleasure and less pain. This calculation permeates everything that we do. Every single action, either consciously or unconsciously, is motivated by chasing pleasure and avoiding pain.

        Baal HaSulam writes about this in the article The Freedom, here’s an excerpt:

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        Pleasure and Pain
        However, when we examine the acts of an individual, we will find them compulsory. He is compelled to do them and has no freedom of choice. In a sense, he is like a stew cooking on a stove; it has no choice but to cook, since Providence has harnessed life with two chains: pleasure and pain.

        The living creatures have no freedom of choice—to choose pain or reject pleasure. And man’s advantage over animals is that man can aim at a remote goal, meaning agree to a certain amount of current pain, out of choice of future benefit or pleasure to be attained after some time.

        But in fact, there is no more than a seemingly commercial calculation here, where the future benefit or pleasure seems preferable and advantageous to the agony they are suffering from the pain they have agreed to assume presently. There is only a matter of deduction here—where they deduct the pain and suffering from the anticipated pleasure, and there remains some surplus.

        Thus, only the pleasure is extended. And so it sometimes happens that we are tormented because the pleasure we received is not the surplus we had hoped for compared to the agony we suffered. Hence, we are in deficit, just as are merchants.

        And when all is said and done, there is no difference here between man and animal. And if this is the case, there is no free choice whatsoever, but a pulling force drawing them toward any passing pleasure and rejecting them from painful circumstances. And Providence leads them to every place it chooses by means of these two forces without asking their opinion in the matter.

        Moreover, even determining the type of pleasure and benefit are entirely out of one’s own free choice, but follows the will of others, as they want, and not he. For example: I sit, I dress, I speak, and I eat. I do all these not because I want to sit that way, or talk that way, or dress that way, or eat that way, but because others want me to sit, dress, talk, and eat that way. It all follows the desire and fancy of society, and not my own free will.

        Furthermore, in most cases, I do all these against my will. For I would be more comfortable behaving simply, without any burden. But I am chained with iron shackles, in all my movements, to the fancies and manners of others, which make up the society.

        So tell me, where is my freedom of will? On the other hand, if we assume that the will has no freedom, and we are all like machines operating and creating through external forces, which force them to act this way, it means that we are all incarcerated in the prison of Providence, which, using these two chains, pleasure and pain, pushes and pulls us to its will, to where it sees fit.

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        Link to the article The Freedom: https://kabbalahmedia.info/sources/4AtF9tGS

        Albert @ KabU

        • #312825
          Cat
          Participant

          Hi Albert,

          Okay, I think I get it.  Just to verify :

          The “where” in this week’s tip means situations / occurrences…  All the activities of daily life ?  Everything we do or don’t do…

          Thank you.

        • #312840

          Yes, you can say that.

    • #311917
      Lora Vatalaro
      Participant

      Thank you for the links to reading sources and blog posts that you often include in your answers to people.  I am finding them to be very valuable.

      My question in regarding praying for help with our spiritual development.  In “Our Only Prayer Should Be To Have The Correct Desire,” Rav Leitman makes very clear what to pray for.  I understand that very clearly.  I’m not sure, though, how personal or impersonal to make it.  In some parts of what we’re learning, the Creator/creation is described as an impersonal system.  But, sometimes Rav Leitman and Baal haSulam make it seem like we are to approach it with more of a love connection (which is how I tend to feel it).  Can you please clarify this for me?

    • #311894
      Cyndi
      Participant

      I am struck by the thought that  everything is happening now, the past, the present and the future- in other words, we have attained freedom and the collective soul has come back together as one and yet, inside of time and space it is still shattered and on it’s journey up the ladder –

    • #311767
      William Taylor
      Participant

      Where and how does the Tora or the new testament speak of reincarnation? I have studied it and have never read anything like that, that I am aware of. and why should I even bother with any connection if i will be recycled until I am corrected?

      • #311790

        Hi William,

        Reincarnation happens on the level of desire. We all have this desire called the point in the heart. This is our spiritual potential. If we realize this potential, this grows into a desire called a soul. If not, this same desire continues to reincarnate again and again until it gets fully realized.

        The Torah talks about the changes of the desires but in the language of roots and branches. It describes how this desire is constantly developing. First it’s raw and then it becomes more defined (Egypt), until it becomes corrected and aimed at the Creator (Israel). All of those changes are essentially the reincarnation of the desire.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2018/06/breaking-israel-news-prominent-kabbalist-describes-near-death-experience/

        As to why bother? Correction is a conscious process. If we don’t participate in it, even if a thousand more years and lifetimes go by, we will not reach it. The only thing that will change is that we’ll experience more and more pressure in life to push us towards correction. The Kabbalists call that “the path of suffering”. It’s like a child that refuses to go to school, so the parents put more and more pressure on him. But pressuring and punishing him is not the same as educating him. So after all of the pressures and punishments they put on him, he will still have to go to school and get his education.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2015/05/we-wont-follow-the-path-of-suffering-forever/

        Albert @ KabU

    • #311077
      Shel
      Participant

      I have debated on whether or not I should ask this.. I am not trying to stir the pot, but I just can’t get it off my mind and it is interfering with my studies.

      Why did Rav Laitman post this incredibly negative post, including a statement that he is not optimistic for humanity?

      2022 Was Bad, 2023 Will Be No Better

      (That is supposed to be a link to the article, but I am having trouble posting without it being edited or automatically deleted.)

      This is really messing with my head because it seems to go directly against everything I have been taught here.

      Is it simply a matter of “no one is perfect?” and he was having a moment of doubt?

      Or is this article really a reflection of Rav Laitman’s inner self/beliefs/subjective reality?

      Linked to this very article is one about how our negative attitudes are causing negative reality.

      I understand that we can’t turn a blind eye to what is happening, and that we must take it seriously and face it in order to make change, but is that how we should approach the challenges?

      That things were horrible last year, are horrible this year, and will continue to be horrible with no hope/optimism for humanity?

      Aren’t we literally taught that all of the bad things that we perceive are lessons, reflections of ourselves, and all just a part of the journey home?

      Aren’t we taught that our beliefs and our intentions are what matters the most?

      Many people are influenced by what Rav Laitman posts, and may now have a negative belief, and no optimism for the future of humanity.

      Why would he want to create that?

      What am I not understanding?

      (Also, if the article entered my reality, and I am getting emotional about it, does that mean that it is a reflection of how *I* secretly feel?

      Do *I* secretly have no hope for myself/humanity?

      Is that the entire point of his post? To cause us to ask that question and take action???)

      I’m sorry about this. I need to know.

       

       

       

      • #311137

        Hi Shel,

        These are good questions, thank you for bringing them up.

        1. Sorry for the linking issue, the developers are still working out the kinks in the forum links, it does not always work for me either. But here’s a link if someone wants to read the full article: https://www.kabbalah.info/net/2022-was-bad-2023-will-be-no-better/

        2. We all develop at different rates, as such, the dissemination of the wisdom of Kabbalah gets adapted to the different levels of development of humanity. Those with active points in the heart have a desire to study Kabbalah. They learn it in a more direct way, like we do on KabU. Those without active points in the heart have all sorts of other media channels through which this wisdom is brought down to a level that they can understand.

        This article was written for a wider audience, those without active points in the heart. Meaning such people are not looking for the meaning of life, they don’t have a need or foundation to understand our inner spiritual work. They simply feel bad in life and are looking for a logical explanation for why and what to do. This is why this article was written in such a way.

        3. Why does it have such a negative tone? Because the situation in the world is indeed dire. It’s like the world is sick with cancer and Rav Laitman is the doctor that diagnosed it. As difficult as it is for a doctor to tell a person that they have cancer, it’s still the truth and the right thing to do.

        4. Regarding things being bad and will continue to be bad, this is correct. All the bad things in the world stem from our uncorrected egoistic nature. As long as we don’t correct that egoistic nature, we should not expect things to get better. On the contrary, life will indeed only get worse and worse.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2011/06/how-can-we-justify-the-creator/

        5. As for the world being a reflection of our uncorrected internal world, that is correct. But trying to see that the external world is our reflection is our inner work. It should not stop us from carrying out any of the normal actions that we need to carry out in the external world. If I’m sick, I still go to the doctor. If someone is trying to hurt me, I still need to stop them, call the cops, sue them, etc. If the world is heading towards destruction, the Kabbalists still need to warn them and teach them how to correct the situation.

        I think I largely answered your concerns with the above five points, let me know if something is still unclear.

        Albert @ KabU

        • #311432
          Shel
          Participant

          Thank you for your answer.

          I am still unclear as to why Rav Laitman would say that he has no optimism for humanity.

          This in specific is really bothering me.

          Is this really his view?

          It goes against everything we’ve been taught (thus far at least.)

          Reading that after watching the last few videos is a very.. jarring difference.

          Using your example of the doctor diagnosing his patient with cancer:

          Imagine if a doctor told a patient: “I am not optimistic for your recovery” VS telling the patient: “If you do the following actions, you could recover.”

          If he tells the patient they can recover with certain behavior changes, they are MUCH more likely to attempt those behavior changes, compared to being told there is no hope. In which case they are much more likely to put their affairs in order, and just live it up until they die.

          If there is no hope, why bother trying to change things?

           

           

        • #362501
          Manuela
          Participant

          I think that there must be a positive finale to our Story as Humanity since Creator cannot fail in his aim of guiding and supporting us in attaining His quality of Unconditional Love. We still have 215 years to reach our goal (completion of 6.000 years from Adam HaRishon onwards) therefore we will accelerate. The point is: what Path will we go through? (Hope to have understood properly…)

        • #311591

          Hi Shel,

          Is this really his view?
          Not necessarily. It’s like when we educate our kids. Sometimes we want to reinforce a certain behavior, so we smile and show them a happy face. Sometimes we want to teach them that a certain behavior has bad consequences, so we show them a sad or upset face. Are we actually happy or sad when we show them those faces, not necessarily. But if we have to show them a happy or sad face to teach them something, we do.

          This is why I pointed out in my previous explanation that this wisdom gets adapted in different ways towards those with active points in the heart and those without them. And that article was geared more towards those without active points in the heart, so it’s written in a style that will have the strongest influence on that level of desire.

          If such articles confuse you, I would recommend avoiding them for now and focusing more on the things we are studying here. Once you have a stronger foundation, you’ll better understand those types of articles as well. Similar to how as kids, we don’t always understand our parents’ attitude towards us and everything they do in order to educate us. But when we grow up and become parents ourselves, we’ll be able to understand them and what it takes to educate a child.

          Albert @ KabU

        • #362531
          Manuela
          Participant

          I meant Abraham… Sorry 🙏

        • #311594
          Shel
          Participant

          Thank you Albert, that does make more sense to me when you put it that way.

          If that is not his actual view, and he is doing it for that purpose, then it does make more sense to me.

          I appreciate your time and patience explaining it to me.

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