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    • #297607
      Massimo Roselli
      Participant

      In my work I coach people to navigate life career transitions and make more conscious decisions by using different coaching methods such as NLP – neuro linguistic programming. I’m also doing this work on myself to train my subconscious mind in order to reprogram my “software”. If there isn’t such thing as free will and if the Creator is the only force in this world, does this mean all the work I do can be questionable? Also, can we say that applying an intention is another way to proactively choose and achieve freedom in addition to creating a spiritual environment that helps us grow?

      • #297881

        Hi Massimo,

        Freedom means rising above our egoistic nature. We can do this only through the force of the light that we extract from the spiritual environment. See my reply to Natalie below for more details.

        Regarding your corporeal work, I cannot comment on your personal situation. But in general, we shouldn’t mix our corporeal lives with our spiritual work. In corporeality, as long as we’re not harming others or doing anything illegal, then everyone is encouraged to build a normal life for themselves: to work, start a family, take care of one’s health, etc. And in the more advanced phases of our development, we’ll understand how this corporeal system in which we build for ourselves a normal life is also a part of our spiritual correction.

        Albert @ KabU

    • #297589
      Natalie Steenbok
      Participant

      Thank you for this insight. Can it be said that the 4th point that we have a choice over is similar to nature vs nurture, only nurture enhancing nature?

      • #297889
        Massimo Roselli
        Participant

        Thank you!

      • #297878

        Hi Natalie,

        Yes, you can say that. Just keep in mind that when we talk about these 4 factors, we’re primarily talking about our spiritual development, about freedom from our egoistic nature.

        Baal HaSulam talks about this in the article, the Freedom. He writes: “Harut (carved) on the tables”; do not pronounce it Harut (carved), but rather Herut (freedom), to show that they are liberated from the angel of death.

        Throughout the article he explains how our current egoistic nature is that angel of death. Meaning although we are technically alive and surviving, relative to spirituality, our life is considered death. True life is within a completely different nature, that of bestowal. In order to reach freedom from our current nature, we need to choose and build a spiritual environment for ourselves which will influence us with the importance of acquiring the quality of bestowal.

        For this reason, the Kabbalists equate our main freedom in life in choosing to be influenced by a spiritual environment. Not just any environment, but specifically a spiritual environment, since only through the spiritual environment can we get the importance of coming out of our egoistic nature and only through that environment can we draw the light that can help us to actualize this.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2012/10/bestowal-should-become-fashionable/

        Albert @ KabU

    • #297421
      Purity K
      Participant

      Why should we  be punished for actions that do not come from us but are placed in us by the Creator?

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        Hi Ruth,

        As we learned in this lesson, we do have a certain amount of freedom in choosing which environment will influence us. So if we are punished, we are not punished for our actions, but for choosing to be influenced by a bad environment.

        Baal HaSulam writes about it in the article “The Freedom”. Here’s an excerpt:

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        “However, there is freedom for the will to initially choose such an environment, such books, and such guides that impart to him good concepts. If one does not do that, but is willing to enter any environment that appears to him and read any book that falls into his hands, he is bound to fall into a bad environment or waste his time on worthless books, which are abundant and easier to come by. In consequence, he will be forced into foul concepts that make him sin and condemn. He will certainly be punished, not because of his evil thoughts or deeds, in which he has no choice, but because he did not choose to be in a good environment, for in that there is definitely a choice.

        Therefore, he who strives to continually choose a better environment is worthy of praise and reward. But here, too, it is not because of his good thoughts and deeds, which come to him without his choice, but because of his effort to acquire a good environment, which brings him these good thoughts and deeds.”

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        Keep in mind that, in Kabbalah, reward and punishment is not referring to someone judging our actions and handing us a fine, rather reward and punishment are referring to a cause and effect relationship that is found in the laws of nature. For example, if I disregard the law of gravity and jump from a 100 story building, then I’ll be “punished” by falling to my death. Meaning it’s not a punishment, but cause and effect, jump off 100 story building -> death.

        Likewise with our spiritual work:

        If I build a good spiritual environment for myself -> I’ll correct my egoistic nature and become similar to the Creator.

        If I don’t build a good spiritual environment for myself -> I’ll waste my time and not reach the spiritual correction in this life.

        So there are no punishments in Kabbalah, but there are laws of nature. And we need to come into balance with these laws.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details:

        https://laitman.com/2008/10/nature%E2%80%99s-commandments-the-creator%E2%80%99s-laws/

        Albert @ KabU

    • #297152
      Abe Tapia
      Participant

      Thank you ALBERT for the info.  I will be reviewing the lesson again.

    • #297109
      Abe Tapia
      Participant

      Can you give me an example of freedom to choose and free will?

      • #297118

        Hi Abe,

        Freedom means rising above our egoistic nature. As we learned in this week’s lesson, we do this by building for ourselves a strong spiritual environment.

        Baal HaSulam talks about this in the article, the Freedom. He writes: “Harut (carved) on the tables”; do not pronounce it Harut (carved), but rather Herut (freedom), to show that they are liberated from the angel of death.

        Throughout the article he explains how our current egoistic nature is that angel of death. Meaning although we are technically alive and surviving, relative to spirituality, our life is considered death. True life is within a completely different nature, that of bestowal. In order to reach freedom from our current nature, we need to choose and build a spiritual environment for ourselves which will influence us with the importance of acquiring the quality of bestowal.

        For this reason, the Kabbalists equate our main freedom in life in choosing to be influenced by a spiritual environment. Not just any environment, but specifically a spiritual environment, since only through the spiritual environment can we get the importance of coming out of our egoistic nature and only through that environment can we draw the light that can help us to actualize this.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2012/10/bestowal-should-become-fashionable/

        Albert @ KabU

    • #295248
      Marcin
      Participant

      How do we know that  the desire to climb outward towards freedom beyond the influence of our egoistic nature is not just a programm within us? Isn’t it influenced by our environment – family, friends, education, culture etc? If the root of everything comes from the spiritual world and we can see only the causes in this world, can we affect the spiritual world with our free will or this “free will” is only an illusion of the freedom?

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