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- January 21, 2021 at 3:48 pm EST #37690
Tony Kosinec- KabU InstructorModeratorAsk anything about week 2 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor.
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- October 15, 2022 at 2:49 pm EDT #302118
Aaron
ParticipantHello,
Would you please explain the meaning of KELIM. What it is…in its essence? What is it in a person in our world? What’s the difference between kelim when the world was created before ….tzimtzum…and after tzimtzum. Do we all have kelim…and what about the kelim of the upper worlds / stages. Can I call myself a kli? Mini version of the bigger version of things.
Thank you!
- October 17, 2022 at 12:22 pm EDT #302269
Albert – KabU Instructor
ModeratorHi Aaron,
Kli is Hebrew for vessel (Kelim is the plural, so vessels). A vessel is a container. What does it contain? Light. Light = pleasure. What vessel can contain pleasure? A desire. So kelim are desires.
We all have different desires, but these are corporeal desires for food, sex, family, money, honor, power, knowledge, etc. Kabbalah does not deal with these types of desires. Kabbalah only deals with the desire for spirituality.
But do we have a desire for spirituality? Not really. At most, we have a single point, called the point in the heart, out of which we can build a true desire for spirituality. How do we do that? By connecting our point with other points in the heart.
This is why we learn about the shattering in the system of Adam Harishon. This is the system of connections between our points in the heart. This is the only thing that was broken and the only thing we need to correct. Once we properly connect between us, we will rebuild that spiritual kli through which we can perceive spirituality.
Keep in mind that we do this type of work only in this safe environment that we call the Kabbalistic group. With the rest of the world we need to act in a normal way, just like everyone else.
We’ll learn more about these things in the more advanced semesters.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2014/05/puzzle-adam-harishon/
As for the restriction (tzimtzum in Hebrew), check out the Guest & Host Allegory in Chapter 3 of Attaining the Worlds Beyond:
http://www.kabbalah.info/eng/content/view/frame/4180?/eng/content/view/full/4180&main
Albert @ KabU
- October 1, 2022 at 4:32 pm EDT #301149
Ahmed Tabella
ParticipantFree will is about our point in the heart, about harnessing this point, and growing it in the right environment.
- September 19, 2022 at 3:25 am EDT #300191
Toni Peltonen
ParticipantBasically we have no free will because the creator is the one placing us in the correct environment, we can only agree with this system and choose to speed up the process. Am I understanding this correctly?
- September 20, 2022 at 4:44 pm EDT #300333
Albert – KabU Instructor
ModeratorHi Toni,
To some extent, that is correct. There is a saying that the Creator puts man’s hand on the good fate and says “choose this for yourself”. Meaning He awakened your point in the heart and brought it to a good spiritual environment in which you can nourish it, but after that the rest is up to you.
But if the point in the heart is forcing me to be here, what needs to happen for me to start actualizing my free will? This desire then needs to be taken away from me little by little, and there I begin to reveal more and more the place of my freedom.
This is similar to how we teach a child to ride a bike. First the parent holds the child completely. Then as the child learns to pedal and balance himself, the parent lets go a little, then a little more and a little more, until the child continue to pedal without the parent holding him at all.
So we too need to learn to continue to do this work even when that initial desire for spirituality begins to disappear or when the ego grows and begins to pull us into many different directions. Here there is already a need for mutual work in the group, the spiritual environment. On one hand when I fall into my ego, they need to pull me out, and on the other hand I need to help pull others out when they fall. This is why Kabbalists have always studied in groups (physical or virtual).
We will learn more about this in the more advanced semesters on KabU, where you’ll receive your own Kabbalah group with whom you can practice these things.
Albert @ KabU
- September 21, 2022 at 12:47 am EDT #300356
Toni Peltonen
ParticipantThank you Albert. For whatever reason this was/is the most difficult lesson to grasp so far and the yearning definitely seems to grow because of that! Hope that made sense 🙂.
- August 28, 2022 at 5:38 pm EDT #298594
Amani
ParticipantI am an African and our parents invoke spiritual forces for protection and abundance. These forces act on children. How can I get rid of it ?
- August 29, 2022 at 12:27 pm EDT #298682
Albert – KabU Instructor
ModeratorHi Amani,
Kabbalah does not deal with such things. We learn in Kabbalah that there is nothing evil in the world except for our own egoistic nature. This is why Kabbalah only deals with the correction of our egoistic nature. As a result of this correction, we become similar to the Creator and reveal this force of love and bestowal in practice, in our lives.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2015/07/a-devil-with-horns-or-our-own-egoism/
Albert @ KabU
- August 20, 2022 at 11:29 am EDT #297607
Massimo Roselli
ParticipantIn my work I coach people to navigate life career transitions and make more conscious decisions by using different coaching methods such as NLP – neuro linguistic programming. I’m also doing this work on myself to train my subconscious mind in order to reprogram my “software”. If there isn’t such thing as free will and if the Creator is the only force in this world, does this mean all the work I do can be questionable? Also, can we say that applying an intention is another way to proactively choose and achieve freedom in addition to creating a spiritual environment that helps us grow?
- August 22, 2022 at 10:39 am EDT #297881
Albert – KabU Instructor
ModeratorHi Massimo,
Freedom means rising above our egoistic nature. We can do this only through the force of the light that we extract from the spiritual environment. See my reply to Natalie below for more details.
Regarding your corporeal work, I cannot comment on your personal situation. But in general, we shouldn’t mix our corporeal lives with our spiritual work. In corporeality, as long as we’re not harming others or doing anything illegal, then everyone is encouraged to build a normal life for themselves: to work, start a family, take care of one’s health, etc. And in the more advanced phases of our development, we’ll understand how this corporeal system in which we build for ourselves a normal life is also a part of our spiritual correction.
Albert @ KabU
- August 20, 2022 at 4:38 am EDT #297589
Natalie Steenbok
ParticipantThank you for this insight. Can it be said that the 4th point that we have a choice over is similar to nature vs nurture, only nurture enhancing nature?
- August 22, 2022 at 1:04 pm EDT #297889
Massimo Roselli
ParticipantThank you!
- August 22, 2022 at 9:53 am EDT #297878
Albert – KabU Instructor
ModeratorHi Natalie,
Yes, you can say that. Just keep in mind that when we talk about these 4 factors, we’re primarily talking about our spiritual development, about freedom from our egoistic nature.
Baal HaSulam talks about this in the article, the Freedom. He writes: “Harut (carved) on the tables”; do not pronounce it Harut (carved), but rather Herut (freedom), to show that they are liberated from the angel of death.
Throughout the article he explains how our current egoistic nature is that angel of death. Meaning although we are technically alive and surviving, relative to spirituality, our life is considered death. True life is within a completely different nature, that of bestowal. In order to reach freedom from our current nature, we need to choose and build a spiritual environment for ourselves which will influence us with the importance of acquiring the quality of bestowal.
For this reason, the Kabbalists equate our main freedom in life in choosing to be influenced by a spiritual environment. Not just any environment, but specifically a spiritual environment, since only through the spiritual environment can we get the importance of coming out of our egoistic nature and only through that environment can we draw the light that can help us to actualize this.
Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2012/10/bestowal-should-become-fashionable/
Albert @ KabU
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