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    Ask anything about week 2 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor.

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    • #285424
      Abby Smiles
      Participant

      Regarding the evolution of desires:

      “We evolve individually and humanity evolves as a whole through five sets of desires: (1) food, sex, shelter; (2) wealth; (3) honor, pride, power; (4) knowledge; (5) spirituality.”

      Is it possible (sure, anything is possible) and what are the consequences (if any) for one to skip over these desires? or if these desires were not met, does the desire for spirituality get affected and in what way? Without having a true desire for pride, power, wealth, is it possible to move through directly to knowledge and spirituality?

       

      Thank you for this knowledge.

      • #285483

        Hi Abby,
        Very natural and practical question.  The answer is in a clearer understanding of our situation.
        Abby Smiles is not only this protein body that incarnated a few decades ago, but there is some desire at your root that has been turning through time, going through the transformation of form as your desire grows more and more.  And even more than that, each and every one is integrally connected to all of the others so just as a baby in the womb first some organs start to develop, then the limbs start to extend but with no fingers or toes and then another part and then back to this part and then back to that part and all of humanity is developing in the same way and we are all also one part of the body of humanity so all of our desires are connected with all of others we can say both in width, meaning across all of humanity and depth, meaning across time (our previous forms).
        So you made it here, to a place where the authentic wisdom of kabbalah is being studied by students of a kabbalist (our teacher Rav Laitman) who received it from his teacher the great kabbalist (the Rabash), who received it from his teacher (Baal HaSulam) extending all the way back to the first revelation of this wisdom to humanity.  You made it 🙂
        Seth@KabU

    • #285380
      Nicky Boo
      Participant

      I am finding all this information fascinating. While listening to this and you talk about the box that creates reality I couldn’t help but think of the book by Phillip K Dick called VALIS. In that story VALIS (Vast Active Living Intelligence System) is the box that hovers in space and imprisons us in this reality, barring us from the upper worlds. The author was famously an explorer of other worlds  via drugs and mental illness. I wonder now how much his ideas where accurate or at least fantastical descriptions of things also found in Kabbalah.

      Just my passing thoughts. Thanks for the lessons. Amazing stuff.

      • #285482

        Hi Nicky,
        I’m not familiar with the book.
        And there are certainly people who attained some degree of spirituality in different ways.
        Our unique situation is that we found here a pragmatic, system, a method for the masses of humanity, for all people to develop to the next degree.  As the vegetative developed to the animate and the animate evolved to our current state, now we are in a transition to the spiritual state.
        Good to hear about your passion for the adventure we have embarked upon,
        Seth@KabU

    • #285162
      Karen
      Participant

      What a beautifully explained lesson! I am so grateful to be a part of these teachings. I found myself nodding with each revelation. Thank you, Tony.

    • #284967
      Dave
      Participant

      If the purpose to become more and more like the creator (will to bestow), the creator wants to fill us with boundless joy.  Who are we then bestowing “to” as we become more like the creator?

      • #285187

        Dave,
        Great question, because in the first place if we are a receiver and will always remain a receiver, what anyway can we bestow?
        So on the one hand there is the desire to receive that developed according to the four phases: inanimate, vegetative, animate and speaking.  During this time the desire is growing in order that we feel ourselves and develop a desire for the Creator, not simply a desire for food, sex, family like all animals and money, honor, knowledge and power like the other social humans creatures, but that we a new desire appears in us for eternity.
        All of our work is not to attain the thing, our work is to attain a desire for the thing.  We are sitting before a set table with all of the delights.  We exist in the upper light, our problem is that we don’t discover it because we don’t have the right vessel for it.  For us to develop a desire for love, for bestowal, really it is an intention, we remain as receivers but we work with our intention that we want to receive not towards ourselves but towards the Creator, the others, all of reality is outside of my imaginary perception.  When I want only for myself that is called that I am a will to receive with an intention to receive.  When I want to connect with the system with the life of lives, with the source of all good, with the integral connection of all of reality, that is called that I am a desire to receive with an intention to bestow.
        Seth@KabU

    • #283908
      yvonne
      Participant

      How does one operate with ease in this world of receiving but also within the upper world of bestowal, assuming that as we transcend we still remain in the world of receiving. Are you saying that we lose the desires of the lower world and that we no longer operate in this way ; or is it that we have a greater awareness of when we are operating on the lower level and when we are not?. For clarity purposes please.

      • #284054

        Yvonne,
        You are correct that we remain as a desire to receive pleasure.
        Here is an example from our world that can help you clarify your question.
        If you have a child and you feed her dinner, so you are giving and she is receiving…it seems that way.
        But as a mom, you receive pleasure and contentment when your child eats and if the child rejected the food, that would pain you, but if the child receives and eats the food, by eating she gives you pleasure.
        So you can see that we are not talking about whether our hands are giving or receiving.
        We are a creature that needs to receive pleasure.  The spiritual change is in our intention as in the example above where the giver can be the receiver and the receiver can be the giver.
        It’s an inner attitude, a shift that happens.
        Seth@KabU

    • #282722
      Xavid
      Participant

      The Kaballah teaches us to release the ego and see creation as beautiful “I am walking down a street and I see trash on the streets, broken furniture on the sidewalk, and weeds growing”, our belief system begins to judge what our perception of a neighborhood should look like, then we are perceiving through our belief system that is base on Self/Ego. However, if you walk down the street thinking what a beautiful street then you are perceiving reality for what it is a beautiful creation.

      • #282756

        Xavid,
        It’s an interesting distinction here.
        The wisdom of kabbalah is telling us that everything that we see is the Creator depicting Himself to us in layers of garments called concealments.
        But behind the concealment, everything is one, together with Him.
        So when we engage in our spiritual work, we aim towards a connection with the Creator and from that connection where I attain wholeness, then I actually perceive a reality that is whole without flaws.
        Seth@KabU

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