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- January 21, 2021 at 3:51 pm EST #37697
Tony Kosinec- KabU InstructorModeratorAsk anything about week 3 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor.
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- April 24, 2023 at 7:14 am EDT #318697CristinaParticipant
thank you
- April 23, 2023 at 1:02 pm EDT #318643JohnParticipant
There really is no other than the Creator. He Created the people who go to their churches, and he Created the Kabbalists who use Kabbalah to uncover who they really are. There is only the Creator and His Will. If we align our hearts and desires with His Heart and Desire then we have Peace.
But in these Kabbalah Teachings, there is always the assumption that there is a separate “you” that can choose to ask the fundamental questions of who I really am, and then receive an awakening of the point in your heart. There is only the Creator, there is no separate “you”. This is just an illusion that the Creator Creates for Himself, for His Own Purposes.
So this issue of the difference between Kabbalah and religion – it’s all in Him. Religious people who only want to keep their present estate and are not interested in changing themselves, and Kabbalists who get the message that they need to change themselves to be like the Creator – this is all the Creator hiding Himself from Himself. There is no other. He does this for His Own Reasons.
When He “finally” Reveals Himself to Himself, in the guise of “you”, then “you” will fully and completely See and Understand that it was all His Will to put Himself through the charade of going from a place of delusion, of being a seemingly separate “me”, to the Actual I of the Creator. And then while there is still a seeming “you” in a body in this world, you will Know, I AM HE.
Blessings to all.
- April 17, 2023 at 4:11 am EDT #318164ClaraParticipant
And if the purpose of creation is to create a creature and fill it with unbounded pleasure, so the people who have not made children have missed the purpose of creation, right? Because what other creature can man make, what has life? Creating a new layer of ‘my soul’ having properties of bestowal – this has no life. This is not really a creature. Or what is a creature? Can I see a project as creature? A projekt or a situation I ‘create’ can not feel anything. How can I know, then, that the creature feels the pleasure I wish it to feel? I just say ‘is so’!?
- April 24, 2023 at 7:23 am EDT #318698CristinaParticipant
Hi John, I completely and absolutely share your thoughts and understand (can feel) a frustration within your words….it is in me too.
to who you are writing these words? and who is writing these words?
we know by heart probably things the mind cant even express. I see this division as a game to tease the mind to have to stupidities and answers and see that. “I Am God”
still when im saying these words the Ego (false me) can hear it…..Lets all keep strongly together here and see the pure transparency we all are!
sometimes I get upset, sometimes immense joy arise! I know I still in the game off my human nature, but I can sense and feel my heart growing in peace, yes that’s how I can describe it Peace, calm, space, no Fear!
much Love as we Are!!!
thank you for sharing your thoughts my friend 🙏🏼
- April 16, 2023 at 6:47 pm EDT #318117ClaraParticipant
But why are people not accepting the bestowal through other people!? They may be even not recognizing the bestowal! Are you sure people want to receive? I am experiencing my whole life that they are not receiving what I give to them as I have it received from the creator, but they take from me what they want to have from me (or mean to want). Or they receive and they don’t give it back like they received it, but holding it. And receiving is passive and it contains what is given, and I learn through Kabbalah that this is even natural, while ‘taking’ is active and it contains a certain image what they have about what they think they want to have without asking, and this has always felt unnatural to me. Not brotherly. I had a hard time on earth, because I refused to take without asking, and I had to receive their poverty they were giving to me. (Yes I know, ‘just take it as bestowal’ 🙄) So is it plausible, that people just can not or do not know how to receive properly!? I have no problems with the Creator, I do have problems with ego-mindsets and lack of awareness of people in this world, and I am becoming impatient, being 40 years long over my limits, that I even do not want to be present here in the world and in this body anymore! Because it makes no sense in this way, they don’t receive what give but just take out of my substance! Where is my blind spot!?
- April 27, 2023 at 4:14 am EDT #318948SarahParticipant
HI Clara, I think that, when you give & other people take, rather than receiving with grace, is the problem? I agree, there are many times like that, and my feeling is that what I want is ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, a gratitude. For them to recognise that I have given something to them. So – this IS wanting something back, and therefore is egoic.
It seems to me that this mechanism also works with the Creator, who wants us to recognise that all in our life has come from Him, returning gratitude & worship. This feels as if it must be true, since if He didnt want our acknowledgement, then wouldn’t we just be able to receive and feel delight? End of story, we stay in the Garden of Eden? But if it is true, does that make the Creator also like us, in wanting something back from all He gives & we receive? If so, isnt He also egoic?
- April 25, 2023 at 3:31 am EDT #318784JohnParticipant
Dear Cristina,
Thank you so much for your kind and insightful comment. It is only the Creator Acting out His Own Divine Play, as you, as me, as all of our wonderful Instructors and students, and of course the whole of the seeming Creation. Nevertheless, here we are, in these classes, joining in these forums, playing the temporary part of a separate “person” on a journey to Completion and Adhesion in Him. Thy Will BE Done! There is no other Will. It is all in Him.
One of the most important Truths that the Creator put into the Awareness of this Aspect is that nothing happens, not in Truth. And yet, in seeming contradiction – everything happens Now. And when I capitalize “Now” it is to express Timelessness. It is Awareness of Perfect Stillness, and Perfect Accomplishment of all possibilities, simultaneously, Right Here, Right Now.
In this Awareness there is absolutely no concern at all for anything that happens, either in the illusion of the outer world, or in the ebb and flow of thoughts, feeling, and desires inwardly. Selfish ego desires, or Perfect, Altruistic desires, It’s all in Him. I AM He. Perfect Adhesion with Him is just part of the illusion, as He is the only One.
But the show must go on, just as He wills, and so we play out our assigned parts. What a joy it is to have a fellow “traveler” who has a similar hint of these Truths as a companion on the “Way”. This is a great Blessing.
Love really is all there IS.
- April 17, 2023 at 4:43 pm EDT #318212Seth – KabU InstructorModerator
Clara,
We have a lot of confusion about everything.
There is even a phenomenon where a hostage starts to empathize with their captor who feeds them. Everything in our world is mixed up.
Sometimes we give to others but when we give, we are doing it because we receive honor or respect or self worth from that giving, so our act of giving is actually considered reception.
There are other times when we don’t want to receive due to the feeling of shame associated with receiving, so we don’t receive in order to protect our ego.
First things first, we have these courses here which help us understand who we are, what system we are in, what are the forces operating on us and how can we relate to them in order to come to a good life for everyone.
Be patient and go over the materials again and again and you will advance naturally and comfortably.
Seth@KabU
- April 15, 2023 at 4:50 pm EDT #318025PatriciaParticipant
Giving of the gift and talents that God bestowed upon me is and has always been way of life. However, I never understood why this was an integral part of my life. Perhaps, asking “why” I’m now aware the “light” has guided me at this moment in my life, is of little concern. I’m “Thankful”!!!
Instead, I choose to remain an Open vessel receiving the light with Gratitude and Thanksgiving from my Creator-God; with the desire of continued Spiritual Growth.
- April 11, 2023 at 3:18 pm EDT #317749GaborParticipant
Hi,
It is said we don’t have to change anything in our everyday life. But how can we correct our desires this way? Is everything depends on our intentions? I’ve listened this lesson many times, but i’m still confused what to do.
- April 15, 2023 at 8:00 pm EDT #318034Seth – KabU InstructorModerator
Gabor,
This material takes a little bit of time to work on us.
It is not that we just hear an answer and then that’s the end of the story.
The kabbalists are guiding us and it is up to us to work to fulfill what they are showing us.
Maybe I give a gift to someone but in my heart I feel envy and hatred.
Maybe I give a gift to someone and in my heart is overflowing love.
Maybe I drive to work and I think only of myself.
Maybe I drive to work and while I do I thinking and praying for the good of others.
We will learn about this more in the future.
Seth@KabU
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