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    Ask anything about week 4 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor.

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    • #398848
      Natu
      Participant

      We learned about the importance of a supportive group for spiritual development and the concept of ‘love your friend as yourself.’ Could you explain how we can practically build and maintain this environment in a group setting, especially when faced with our own egoistic tendencies?

      • #398943

        Hi Natu,

        The Kabbalists, especially Rabash, left behind a whole method of how to connect in a Kabbalistic group. In the advanced semesters, everyone will receive their own Kabbalah group. It’s also then that we’ll learn the writings of Rabash in great detail and implement them practically in the group.

        Albert @ KabU

    • #393126
      Verena
      Participant

      HI, I have got a question about prayer… now ,I understood, that religious prayer is not the same as spiritual prayer. And I understood that in a way we are always in prayer. Does this refer to our corporeal yearning… like when we are yearning for something for ourselves or our friends or hope a burden is taken from us?   And while this is natural, it´s not a Kabbalistic prayer. Now, how to deal with those yearnings nontheless? I read in one answer that it´s jst fine to keep it up, to keep praying, just not with the expectation of fulfillment, because that´s not how we draw the light plus the upper force means good to us anyways. However, for me just knowing it changed the process, reduced my desire to even focus on it. Yet, something is jsut missing now, and since i didn´t learn how to ray in terms of kabbalistic prayers, it feels like there is a space to fill. So… I am just wondering what to do with this old way of praying… does it have any effect.. and even if it´s just a psychological trick to calm one´s mind? Or will it just dilute the experience of real prayer? And is there any such thing like a “format” for spiritual prayer? For religious prayer it seems so easy, so trained, because there are all those setups like prayer books, places to go, rituals to do… How is the preparation for a spiritual prayer in relation to that? Is there any at all?

      • #393147

        Hi Verena,

        We learn that the Creator is the good that does good and only sends us goodness. So if every moment we’re receiving only goodness, then the only prayer we should really be working on is to correct ourselves, so we feel that true state.

        Furthermore, we learn that praying for myself in the majority of cases is egoistic. Even if I’m asking for lofty things like bringing the Creator contentment, if it’s focused on myself, then it’s egoistic and actually causes me more harm than good. So we should work on focusing our prayers on others, on helping our Kabbalistic group to advance towards the Creator. As for me, since I’m part of that group, I don’t need to pray for myself, rather, my prayers for the group include me in there as well. It’s like a cell in a body being concerned with the whole body. If the body is balanced and healthy, then the cell will also be balanced and healthy.

        As for the preparation to the prayer, the true prayer is the peak of our work. All that we do beforehand is the preparation for that true prayer. For example, we spend a lot of times studying and learning about higher spiritual levels. As a result of that, we typically reveal just how opposite we are from them, how much our egoism is standing in our way. As a result of that, we begin to feel despaired with our own strength and then we feel a true prayer come out for the Creator to help us overcome the ego.

        All of this is just scratching the surface of the topic of prayer. We will be learning about all these things in great depth in the more advanced semesters.

        Check out these blog posts from Rav Laitman for more details:

        https://laitman.com/2011/01/praying-in-order-to-change/

        https://laitman.com/2017/03/what-is-prayer/

        Albert @ KabU

        • #393153
          Verena
          Participant

          Thank you 🙂 Thatś very helpful. 🦋

    • #392833
      Brad
      Participant

      Did Rabash/ Laitman ever physically fast on Yom kippur?

    • #392826
      Carly
      Participant

      When I was 40 years old I had a dream of a pyramid although the term “temple” was impressed upon me. Three quarters of it was submerged in still water, (and I felt the immensity of it though I couldn’t see it). What I could see was the top quarter of it above the water shining like diamond and beautiful in the light. There was blurred plant life in the background. I got the impression that the “temple” represented me but I never knew how to correctly interpret this dream. Here I am seven years later listening to this information about the inanimate, vegetative, animate and speaking and feel strongly that this is connected. Can anyone help with this kind of question? Thank you ☺️

      • #393028

        Hi Carly,

        I cannot comment on your personal situation. We can only talk about these things in general.

        Albert @ KabU

    • #392127
      Kerrie
      Participant

      Does working through these lessons on this platform = a group of 10? I only have one friend in my local area who is doing these lessons with me.

      • #392194

        Hi Kerrie,

        We’re not yet studying in groups of ten. We’re still in the fundamentals learning the basics of Kabbalah. Everything we learn here and in the intermediate semester is the necessary foundation for the work in a ten.

        And in the advanced semester, everyone will be placed in virtual groups of ten with whom they can put all these things into practice.

        Until then, having a friend nearby who is also going through these lessons is great. That’s very rare in our post pandemic world.

        It’s also highly recommended to regularly connect to the live zoom sessions and to read through the Q/A forums. These opportunities to connect with other points in the heart and be influenced by their desire for spirituality is similar to the future work that we’ll be doing in tens.

        Albert @ KabU

    • #392125
      Verena
      Participant

      Hi Albert, I just saw you answered a lot of this in a previous threat in that we are never going backwards, and are not in multiple stages at the same time (I just cannot edit my question anymore). So, basically, most is answered already,  I am just wondering what this stage of feeling like being drawn back and forth, of sensing the creator and then being pushed back into darkness, of sensing  and then losing the sensation of „love thy neighbour as thyself“ on various levels refers to. Is this correction? And then the other question about how correction works on us and the whole remains for me. How often do we have to go through a correction to make it last in us and around us?

      • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by Verena.
      • #392192

        Hi Verena,

        1. Spiritual advancement happens specifically from the ups AND downs. It’s just like the EKG chart that measures the heart. If there are ups and downs, the heart is beating, the body is alive. If it flatlines, the body dies.

        Likewise in our spiritual work, our advancement is composed of many of ups and downs. But if we’re in the same state for a long period of time, then we stop advancing and are spiritually dead.

        2. The corrections always remain. What happens after each correction is a new egoistic level is revealed, and then we start working on correcting that new level.

        Keep in mind the emergence of a new level of egoism and experiencing those down states is a sign of spiritual advancement. So we should relate to these things positively. It’s just like when a child completes a puzzle, we are happy and reward him with a more challenging puzzle, so he can keep growing and developing.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2019/08/spiritual-sine-wave/

        Albert @ KabU

        • #392199
          Verena
          Participant

          Thank you, this is very helpful… and I really appreciate the link… itś exactly how it feels, so I feel  I am starting to get it now :-))

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