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Hello. I’m just starting week 4, and as great as the first three weeks have been, this week’s intro video from Tony is just awesome. There’s so much information in that twenty odd minutes.
Up to this point, the course has felt very…”introductory”, which is fine. I could tell, be the number of times the same basic concepts were explained, that the designers of the course wanted to be very sure that these key concepts were well understood before moving on.
But that “point in the heart” in me is awake, and eager to learn. I was feeling that itch, growing inpatient, wanting more. And then…
BAM. This amazing video. This is the good stuff. I’m excited. Let’s go!
Are we looking to attempt to create this screen within us that Tony has discussed at this stage or are we better to leave this for later, once we have studied further and in groups?
How can one be certain of achieving Behina Dalet? If one is to feel these things in order to know them, how can one be certain they are actually feeling the target goal, and not just imagining it, or perhaps feeling commonplace euphoria rather than the actual attainment?
This sentence intrigues me: From there emerged what is called the thought of creation, to create a creature and to bestow endless good upon it.
My question: Is the creator bestowal always “good”? What is the meaning of good in Kabbalah? What is the “nature” of the light and can it be “good” or “bad” and does it give us only pleasure?
Because we receive many things in life, diseases, pain, sadness, etc, we don’t want to receive those things, because our nature is to move toward pleasure. Are those things part of the light and can they be called “good” and “pleasure”? How does that fit into our desires to receive only pleasure?
Thank you
Nuria,
Everything emanating from the Creator is called “good”.
The extent that we don’t receive it as good, is the exact measure of how far we are from that state called “good”.
If we receive something “not good”, it in no way affects the source of that thing which emanated from the Creator as good.
Look at our lives in for example a historical context.
What good could you possibly receive as a newborn?
The newborn does not even perceive itself, so just to be fed, to be cleaned and to sleep is sufficient.
Then we became teenagers and we wanted a boyfriend or a girlfriend, a little money to spend on the weekend.
But a teenager didn’t want a low interest rate mortgage and second home on the sea.
Now, stretch that back 100,000 years, what did our primitive ancestors want? Shelter and a piece of meat.
So the desire needs to grow in order for the Creator to be able to fill us, eventually with endless delight.
And this is a long process with many discernments until we come to realize that I cannot satisfy my ego and that I come on my own to a realization that I need Him. That is the reason for all of the discomfort, just to push us to Him, just so we will eventually feel that it is all separation from Him.
Seth@KabU
As far as I understand, the original intention of the Creator was to create a Creature able to be as Him: the way to learn, or better, to know, I mean to esperience and become it (Creature side) is feasible only via this Path.
Is it correct? PS pls forgive my English, I am Italian🙏). Thank you so much!Manuela,
We received a method from Baal HaSulam whereby a normal person like us, not a special “Moses” of the past, but a modern person like us, living in this world can learn who she is, what are the forces operating on us and how we can rise to the spiritual degrees, to the qualities of the Creator.There is an expression, “there are many paths to the place”, so maybe you can find some other place. I searched for many years and did not find another one that was so clean and with a clear method.
You have free choice to discover this for yourself.
Seth@KabU
I have a question about phase 4: the creature accepts the light 100%, because that was the way it was intended to. Is there also a kind of bestowal toward the creator?: Accepting the light with fully understandig of purpuse, will send a “feedback” to the creator, in the form of contentment and so , is that a bestowal too? For example, we recieve a birthday present: maybe we don’t like it much, but because we are polite we say thank you (or not). But if we don’t like it very much but we understand that the present was intended for our fulfillment and we accept it conscientiously, does that gives pleasure to the giver?
Thanks for your reply! Indeed, by “this Path” I did not mean Kaballah in respect to others. I meant the journey back via the 125 steps (that I guess are different ratios of bestowal&reception desires) is the one thing needed to grow our Soul and, as a consequence, the collective One?
I sense this approach has something powerful that reasonates with me deeply inside. So clean, so simple on the paper, but I am also aware of our Ego being so difficult to overcome and our subconscious reactive patterns and ancestral wounds so difficult even to being recognised. I am eager of knowing more.
Thank you again.
Manuela,
It is a very natural process.
In your mother’s womb, all of the limbs grow in the correct time and in the correct way.
When we start to grow and go to school, then later we start to notice others and fall in love. All of this happens in a natural way, we don’t have to make it happen. If the body is healthy all of these processes are natural.So also the spiritual ascent is already written, it’s all arranged.
According to the same steps that the light took when it cascaded down from on high. We traverse those same steps as we ascend. It is all very natural.However, the spiritual ascent is different from the biological ascent.
In our biological body, these desires develop naturally without our participation.
Our spirituality develops only according to our increasing the desire for it. It does not happen on its own.
This is the purpose of the kabbalistic group. This group helps each other and inspires each other and raises the importance of the spiritual goal so that we can advance in it.
Seth@KabU
Nuria,
You are breifly describing the next set of spiritual operations that take place after phase 4.
There are many more spiritual process that take place, the restriction and then the building of the spiritual worlds and the partzufim and sefirot, the shattering of the vessel and the corrections of the vessel and its rising back up through all of the worlds.
All of those processes will follow the same primordial template from the 4 phases.
Seth@KabU
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