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    • #363068
      Zachary Jones
      Participant

      Are the 125 steps equivalent to the four phases of direct light?

      • #363454
        Zachary Jones
        Participant

        I see. I will contemplate your answer deeply before posing another question.

         

        Thank you.

      • #363086

        Hi Zachary. We can say yes. In all Creation there’s just 4 phases expressed upon each detail and over all the details as well.

    • #357215
      Kimadigital7
      Participant

      You said that Bina was fulfilled with a different kind of pleasure called the Light of Hassidim. What do you mean by different? Or each phases has it own sensation?

      What is the difference between the Light of Hochma and the Light of Hassidim?

      • #357218

        Ohr Hochma is the Light of the Purpose of Creation; Ohr Hassidim is the Light of the correction of Creation – the pleasure of being empty, because if I’m empty I’m less opposite to the Upper Light, which is bestowing. At least if I’m empty it’s as if I’m not receiving. Bina is all Hassidim, Hocham is all Light of Hochma, so of course these are opposite feelings.

        • #357425
          Kimadigital7
          Participant

          Thank you,

          I don’t know if I got you clearly. You said that, the Purpose of creation was not for the creature to endlessly receive but to transition to an orderly different form of existence above all limitations, above time and space by invading the desire to receive which is the essence of the created being and making it like the Creator.

          1- I wish to ask, so it is the Light of Hassidim that will help us to invade the desire to receive and make it like the Creator?

          2- If am suppose to use the Light of Hassidim correctly, should I demand the Creator to correct myself so that I can love and bestow to my friends or Or I should only demand the light to correct my friends for the sake of Dvekut?

          3- How do we use the Light of Hassidim correctly in the group?

        • #357428

          In this course, we’re not talking about using these things because we can’t use them. Here, we’re trying to come closer to Baal HaSulam (and the ARI’s) texts. And we’re looking for the Reforming Light to work on us as we do this.

          Conceptually, the Light of Hassidim, bestowal, is the correction of Creation but ultimately all the bestowal we can do is only be using the only thing we’ve got, which is the Desire. In the end, it gets filled limitlessly, but in a new, alien way, we can’t imagine. It’s so alien that paradoxically we feel like this, this I can understand. But it’s very far from us, and our work isn’t in that direction if we want to be realistic about what’s before us to do.

          The work that is in front of us is connection to those that are on this path together with us. In a realistic way, without Hassidim or any other unfamiliar terms.

        • #357429
          Kimadigital7
          Participant

          Thank you for the clarification

    • #338510
      Boke
      Participant

      Do we need to transend the spiritual shame into spiritual growth. So actual feeling this shame and using it to grow. So is this shame, which we like avoid or flee from given to us by the creatorin oder to grow?

      • #338532

        We strive our whole lives to avoid shame, naturally. But we don’t feel spiritual shame because we don’t feel the Creator is giving to us. Therefore, it is not an obstacle. It was intentionally concealed from us so that we don’t need to deal with that right now. We can advance without thinking about that.

    • #330601
      John Caton
      Participant

      How do we bestow to the Creator who has no desire to receive? Is bestowal towards other creatures the goal, so as to empty the Kli in order to receive more from the Creator?

      • #330604

        Hi John,

        The Kli is empty. That’s what we feel in this world, where I can feel relative fulfilments, in contrast to utter emptiness. It’s called ‘neir dakik” [thin candle]. Just to keep us alive. So, the Kli is empty, we don’t need to worry about that.

        The goal of Creation is that the kli will be filled with the Light, the pleasure that has in it everything, all pleasures. The means is bestowal upon others because to be able to receive all the Light in a way that is not opposite to the quality of the Upper Force – which is bestowal – requires a correction in my desire.

    • #329626
      Zealot Mines
      Participant

      I have a question on reality? Is our reality the Creator?

      • #329628

        It’s the Creator as He presents Himself so that we would learn how to relate back to Him, in the form of bestowal.

    • #329282
      Zealot Mines
      Participant

      Up to this point, I have never thought or heard of spiritual shame.. Are there possibly people who want or enjoy spiritual shame? So sort of arrogance?

      • #329284

        No, no one knows what it is. It’s reserved for special souls at high spiritual degrees. And a person can’t tolerate ordinary shame either. Everything one does is to avoid it. Otherwise one would live much differently.

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