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    • #282468
      Marc
      Participant

      What is the drama between the light and the Kli and how is shame involved?

      • #282478

        The drama between the Light and Kli is all there is in Creation. Except we don’t feel it yet because the Kli is now broken and out of this brokenness we depict reality. The Light wants to fill the Kli but for that the parts have to connect. We are those parts. We don’t feel any Shame in our state because we don’t feel there is an Upper Force permeating everything and bestowing to us.

    • #282296
      Richard Lively
      Participant

      So shame is a good thing, therefore it is shame that pushes us naturally to the creator.  The brain calls this maladaptation.  We can eat something that is delicious but eventually it loses its savor and literally our desire to finish it after eat so much.   I think I understand, we ran from the creator to the lowest of all worlds because we did not want to feel this feeling which eventually we have no choice but to feel and that is our same point we must reconcile our differences to learn to receive  properly or simply continue rejecting and be miserable.

      • #293012
        Manuel
        Participant

        If I understand correctly. Shame is always there to begin with. Is just that we’re living Unconsciously and we can’t see that we are at the mercy of the upper force. We don’t realize that we are Completely dependent on the Creator.

        I guess!

    • #281990
      Sol Belo
      Participant

      Where does the Light of Hassadim (in Bina) that is opposite to the Light from the Creator originate?

      • #282047

        It isn’t opposite the Light of the Creator, it is the Light (pleasure) in being similar to the Creator, which is of a higher quality that the pleasure in reception. In receiving what? It doesn’t matter what? The pleasure in similarity with the Creator is a sublime, exalted thing.

    • #281216
      Sol Belo
      Participant

      Faith above reason sounds to me like a quantum leap out of the comfort of my egoistic perception. So, I am as yet at a loss what I can do with the Four phases of Light beyond just being aware of it.

      • #282048

        Of course. We don’t perceive Four Phases anywhere. We don’t feel where we are with respect to the spiritual reality yet. We’re under that reality, not in touch with it.

    • #281075
      W Kabu 10-Joy
      Participant

      A 2-part question:

      a) Are spiritual shame and the revelation of evil the same thing? Are they each the awareness of my completely egoistic nature in Malchut and the grief it engenders in me because I am completely opposite the Creator, and no matter what I try to do, cannot (by design) bestow?

      b) Is faith above reason the goal that allows me to transcend (not eliminate) spiritual shame and/or the revelation of evil? And does this transcendence occur when I surrender to the Light, to the endless pleasures in the Kings’ Palace, to the Creator’s intention for creation? If so, does surrendering mean I want to be like the Creator so much that I am willing to override every bit of my ego by treating my neighbor’s desires as more important than my own? Is this how the Creator’s endless pleasures flow through me to others and give the Creator contentment? Is this how I become a zero?

      Again, thank you in advance for your kindness in answering these questions.

       

      • #281154

        That’s a good question, you’re thinking is right, but no on (a). Malchut revealed her nature in the world of Eyn Sof, that it was utter reception without a shred of bestowal. But it’s not that she knows she’s doing wrong and she nevertheless continues. And moreover there is no wrong in this situation. From the Upper Force’s point of view, there’s no need for Tzimzum (Restriction). Seemingly she could go ahead and receive just like that, anything you want granted, no limitations. The Restriction is called “adornment” – that is, something not necessary. But later there will be the process of correction, restrictions, forbidden, and evil.

        (b) Even though it seems that here we are discussing states that are so far away from us that they reach up the entire spiritual latter, what’s written in the Preface which we’re discussing in this course is actually very close, in that in it is a remedy that builds our soul on the first spiritual degree. Specifically Shame though is not right next to us. Shame, it’s written, is reserved for the great righteous. You’ll be very happy to reach such a state. And of course you’ll need to be equipped with something called Faith Above Reason to enter any degree that is above the one we’re given from birth because the Upper World is not like anything you understand and you can’t access it any way you know how, but I don’t know what Faith Above Reason is right now because it’s not part of this particular course.

        • #281227
          W Kabu 10-Joy
          Participant

          Thank you, Gianni, for the clarity you bring to a complex subject.

           

    • #280149
      Cheryl
      Participant

      After reading questions/answers, I will ask this question (again?).
      Is it possible to recognize the Four Phases of Light, somewhere in one’s progression through these phases?

      Am I correct to say…
      In Bena, the Light of Mercy is created through mercy shown to us by the Creator for our incorrect action of the rejecting the Light, rejecting bestowal?

      • #281152

        Hi Cheryl,

        No, we can’t recognize these stages because we’re not in them. We just can’t imagine what we’re in – an imaginary world, we’re having a dream. And that’s why these teachings sound so strange – they’re about the real world, and we’re not in the real world.

        If we got an awakening to the wisdom of Kabbalah it probably means there are a few sparks in this dream, which if I collect them, I will wake up to the true reality. By learning about it though, I strengthen these sparks. There is no other way out of this state. I remain in it, until I do it.

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