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Jon AltoParticipantYou’re welcome. I’ve learned a lot from Gianni, many thanks to him 🙂
Music is like a time portal. It brings us to where feelings were, where they were created and experienced.
When you hear a song from your childhood, you travel back to that time and feel what you felt then. That’s beautiful and valuable. Nostalgic music serves a real purpose, it connects us to our memories and emotions.
But Kabbalistic music serves a different purpose entirely.
Think about how we work with the Zohar. When we read it and align our intentions and desires toward Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai and the authors, we can reach a similar spiritual state, the same “reality” they were in when they wrote it, thousands of years ago. We’re not just reading words; we’re connecting to their attainment.
Music from Baal HaSulam works the same way. When he arranged these melodies, he was in certain spiritual states. The music carries those states. When we listen with the right intention, trying to align ourselves with him, the music becomes a portal to where he was spiritually. It brings us toward the intention behind it, like an invisible prayer.
Regular music, even spiritual-feeling music, brings you to human emotions and experiences, yours or someone else’s. That can be powerful and moving.
But Kabbalistic music brings you toward the Kabbalist’s connection with the Creator. It’s not about the feelings themselves. It’s about using those feelings as a ladder to climb to where they climbed.
When the music stops, where are you? Do you feel closer to the Creator? Do you want to study, connect with your group, work on yourself spiritually? Or do you just feel emotionally satisfied?
Nostalgic music takes you to your past. Kabbalistic music takes you toward spiritual states.
Here’s something important to remember: All of this, Kabbalistic music versus secular music, sacred versus mundane, we’re seeing it through duality. We’re making distinctions because that’s how we work in our current state.
But the Creator’s plan doesn’t need any specific music. The Creator doesn’t need the Zohar or melodies from Baal HaSulam. These dualities, sacred and secular, Kabbalistic and regular, are just a path for us. They’re tools that help us while we’re still working within perception of separation.
The music, the books, the distinctions we make, they’re scaffolding. As we grow spiritually, we understand that everything comes from the same Source, and everything can serve the spiritual path when approached with the right intention. The Creator reaches us through whatever opens our hearts.
The Kabbalistic tools are recommended because they’re efficient, they’re specifically designed for the journey. But they’re not the only way the Light reaches us.
Use music that awakens something in you. But understand what portal you’re walking through. Nostalgic music takes you to your past. Kabbalistic music takes you toward spiritual states. And remember, all paths ultimately lead to the same place. The distinctions help us navigate while we’re still learning to see the unity behind everything.
Jon AltoParticipantIn Kabbalah, what matters most is where something takes you spiritually.
If music, any music, wakes up in you a real desire for the Creator, or makes you feel love and connection, then it’s doing something good. The Kabbalists teach that anything bringing you closer to the Upper Force has value. Your feelings become a tool for spiritual growth.
But there’s something special about music from Kabbalists like Baal HaSulam. These melodies aren’t just beautiful sounds. They carry the spiritual experiences of the Kabbalists who created them. When you listen with the right intention, you’re not just having your own feelings, you’re connecting to the spiritual places they reached.
Regular music, even great music like Coldplay, brings people together where they are. Everyone feels united, but on the same level. Kabbalistic music is designed to lift you upward, toward higher spiritual states, toward the Creator.
When the music stops, where are you? Do you feel more desire to study, to connect with your spiritual group, to work on yourself? Or do you just feel good about yourself?
Music that turns your heart toward the Creator, whatever its source, has helped you. But music created by Kabbalists specifically as spiritual tools carries extra power because it contains their spiritual attainment.
Even if it feels similar, Christian music often points toward different spiritual ideas (like intermediaries between you and God). Those intentions are baked into the music. You might absorb them without realizing it, which can create confusion in your Kabbalistic work.
Use music that wakes you up spiritually. But stay aware of where it’s trying to take you. Always redirect those awakened feelings back to your Kabbalistic path, your studies, your group, your desire to grow.
November 18, 2025 at 7:42 pm EST in reply to: What if the history of our relationship with Jews in the Human network actually follows the template for how nature evolves all its systems? #466849
Jon AltoParticipantYes, because it is a deeper conflict of egoism versus altruism. It can be seen at many levels of reality, in different shape and form, its a fight of dualities for a balance.
Now that we know, what do we do?
November 18, 2025 at 7:08 pm EST in reply to: Putting your feelings aside, what did you take from this section of the course? #466846
Jon AltoParticipantI like the image of all this. It brings meaning and higher purposes to important things. I keep challenging my ego about the resistance of such conflicts, but its not easy. Fortunately, this is the path forward, lets keep going.
Jon AltoParticipantI am Jon. Raised Christian, I always had a neutral positive view of the Jews. Then slowly, I grew more compassion, specially after being exposed so much to holocaust content. Then later at the age of 30, kabbalah drew a bridge between Christianity, Judhaism and science, I was finally able to fully relate with Jews, and its ancestry we proudly come from.
When I am asked about the Jewish problem, I can only answer this: If there is hatred, it is from indifference, and a desire to lower a group, to gain something from another. Narcissism vs empath. Actually, its quite complex that I can’t relate to antisemitism, to truly grasp its roots.
From a kabbalistic lens, I can see the Tikkun behind all this. Its just tragic how slow learner we are. Fortunately, technology and AI could give some hope. I understand things happen so we exist. But its time to choose wiser…
Jon AltoParticipantThe overthinking part is very scientist and rational. There’s nothing wrong, but it does make it harder to navigate reality. That’s why kabbalah triggered my ego over and over. I was wondering, why do we have to learn these complicated Hebrew words? Why should we stick with words that most cannot relate to.
Then asking the question is answering it. I could give an answer, but I realize that it’s better to let people find them for themselves.- AuthorReplies

