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Hi, I`ve been studying with KabU only for a few months, and first of all I just wanted to leave a big and  heartfelt „THANK YOU“ to all of the KABUTeam… KabU team, the way you lead us beginners through all this is really, really helpful, and it´ś such a great setup with all the different courses, the forums, the Q/A sessions… and all those Videos, they are really amazing … I am truly grateful for the chance to study Kabbalah this way, and I so much appreciate all the work you put in this. 🥰
Now, in this forum I read a lot of very detailed questions, and quite a few of them were discussing the meaning of Torah, of some specific rituals, laws, commandments, … on the other hand, in the courses I learned that Kabbalah is exactly not about religion, that it´ś rather science, because it needs to be attained, observed and not believed in. When I started the courses, I was all intrigued by the scientific aspects of Kabbalah, maybe because I have some background there, and I really liked the idea of not having to believe but try,… anyways, now that I am progressing with the couses, I just dońt see the science yet. Please dońt get it wrong, I am totally happy with all that I learned… And for me, itś deeply spiritual, more than anything I have learned or practiced so far,… only I want to perceive it the right way. So, what I am trying to do is read it with an open mind, try to be unprejudiced, ready to be surpised by any revelation. In that, I am trying an empiric scientific approach. And I am getting, that once I get into a 10, the „lab“ might really be such, if the conditions to practice have determined factors, like in an experiment in a science lab.So, I am just seeking reassurance… well and the group, a teacher , and books of course…is that how it´ś meant? And is that all it needs? An open heart and an open mind? (Point in the heart included, for I am here…) After all,  I did not bother much about the religious impact yet, although I find the texts hard to understand as I dońt have any Jewish religious education, and the terminology reminds me so much of religion after all. Can I go on like that? Or will I just be disappointed then or getting to limits of understanding, if I dońt have that religious background ( I have a Christian background… but I never really took anything literally, and I am not into religion in terms of laws and dogmas, so I just cannot relate to it).
Thanks a lot :-))
Hi, I`ve been studying with KabU only for a few months, and first of all I just wanted to leave a big and  heartfelt „THANK YOU“ to all of the KABUTeam… , the way you lead us beginners through all this is really, really helpful, and it´ś such a great setup with all the different courses, the forums, the Q/A sessions… and all those Videos, they are really amazing … I am truly grateful for the chance to study Kabbalah this way, and I so much appreciate all the work you put in this. 🥰
Now, in this forum I read a lot of very detailed questions, and quite a few of them were discussing the meaning of Torah, of some specific rituals, laws, commandments, … on the other hand, in the courses I learned that Kabbalah is exactly not about religion, that it´ś rather science, because it needs to be attained, observed and not believed in. When I started the courses, I was all intrigued by the scientific aspects of Kabbalah, maybe because I have some background there, and I really liked the idea of not having to believe but try,… anyways, now that I am progressing with the courses, I just dońt see the science yet. Please dońt get it wrong, I am totally happy with all that I learned… And for me, itś deeply spiritual, more than anything I have learned or practiced so far,… only I want to perceive it the right way. So, what I am trying to do is read it with an open mind, try to be unprejudiced, ready to be surpised by any revelation. In that, I am trying an empiric scientific approach. And I am getting, that once I get into a 10, the „lab“ might really be such, if the conditions to practice have determined factors, like in an experiment in a science lab.So, I am just seeking reassurance… is that how it´ś meant? And is that all it needs? An open heart and an open mind? (Point in the heart included, for I am here…) After all,  I did not bother much about the religious impact yet, although I find the texts hard to understand as I dońt have any Jewish religious education, and the terminology reminds me so much of religion after all. Can I go on like that? Or will I just be disappointed then or getting to limits of understanding, if I dońt have that religious background ( I have a Christian background… but I never really took anything literally, and I am not into religion in terms of laws and dogmas, so I just cannot relate to it).
Thanks a lot :-))
Hi Gianni, thanks so much for trying to clarify this. I feel my ego is still a bit stubborn here… itś really important to me, but I feel still a bit lost… because in fact I had understood that connecting my desire and maybe those of my group (if I have one)  on behalf of a friend, that yearning for him to progress, would be a Kabbalistic prayer. And that these desires can then connect and draw the light at some point. Is that right at all? Or, if praying for connection or for others is unnatural,… then probably I just got it totally wrong? Sorry, I really dońt want to be bothering, but I really just wish to understand this, because itś just crucial for me.😊
Hi Gianni, thanks so much for answering. I think I got the second part of your answer, but I am afraid I didn´t understand the first part… “We don’t pray the prayer for connection of what’s broken (the shattered soul) that the Creator responds to.”
Why wouldn´t we pray for that? I understand we don´t pray for what we want or need for ourselves and others, and even less for being advantaged over others – minding that the upper force has only “the good” in it and will provide us with what we need to grow (even if that may be rather the opposite of what we seek in our lives…). But why wouldn´t we pray for connection? I thought that is what it is about? I feel I am getting this totally wrong… I thought a prayer is the yearning to be connected to the upper light, and if we address it to the upper force in terms of developing ourselves in order to understand and change ourselves towards this connection that´s a prayer? And if we address it to the upper force in terms of helping our friends develop in their journey, that is what will make the desire an then connection even stronger? I am happy with any help to understand this :-))
I feel very much in those two environments or worlds at the same time now- the spiritual one and the corporeal one. And the more I learn about connection and prayer and the upper force, the more I feel or sense how different they both are. It’s  a big change in my perspective to actually feel those differences and it challenges my perception and concepts. It’s challenging, too, to give both its place and not muddle it up…especially now, when it’s all still new and undeveloped, but still so strong.
In a way, in terms of spirituality, all of this is mindblowing, and so beautiful, but to think of working in a group also challenges my need to trust. After all, it’s all about humans, and while maybe nothing is coincidental and even conflicts are great to learn, I feel a bit insecure about what working in a spiritual group will be like.
