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- October 11, 2024 at 12:14 pm EDT in reply to: Ask anything about week 4 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor. #393153VerenaParticipant
Thank you 🙂 Thatś very helpful. 🦋
October 11, 2024 at 3:37 am EDT in reply to: Ask anything about week 4 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor. #393126VerenaParticipantHI, I have got a question about prayer… now ,I understood, that religious prayer is not the same as spiritual prayer. And I understood that in a way we are always in prayer. Does this refer to our corporeal yearning… like when we are yearning for something for ourselves or our friends or hope a burden is taken from us?  And while this is natural, it´s not a Kabbalistic prayer. Now, how to deal with those yearnings nontheless? I read in one answer that it´s jst fine to keep it up, to keep praying, just not with the expectation of fulfillment, because that´s not how we draw the light plus the upper force means good to us anyways. However, for me just knowing it changed the process, reduced my desire to even focus on it. Yet, something is jsut missing now, and since i didn´t learn how to ray in terms of kabbalistic prayers, it feels like there is a space to fill. So… I am just wondering what to do with this old way of praying… does it have any effect.. and even if it´s just a psychological trick to calm one´s mind? Or will it just dilute the experience of real prayer? And is there any such thing like a “format” for spiritual prayer? For religious prayer it seems so easy, so trained, because there are all those setups like prayer books, places to go, rituals to do… How is the preparation for a spiritual prayer in relation to that? Is there any at all?
VerenaParticipantHi, I`ve been studying with KabU only for a few months, and first of all I just wanted to leave a big and  heartfelt „THANK YOU“ to all of the KABUTeam… KabU team, the way you lead us beginners through all this is really, really helpful, and it´ś such a great setup with all the different courses, the forums, the Q/A sessions… and all those Videos, they are really amazing … I am truly grateful for the chance to study Kabbalah this way, and I so much appreciate all the work you put in this. 🥰
Now, in this forum I read a lot of very detailed questions, and quite a few of them were discussing the meaning of Torah, of some specific rituals, laws, commandments, … on the other hand, in the courses I learned that Kabbalah is exactly not about religion, that it´ś rather science, because it needs to be attained, observed and not believed in. When I started the courses, I was all intrigued by the scientific aspects of Kabbalah, maybe because I have some background there, and I really liked the idea of not having to believe but try,… anyways, now that I am progressing with the couses, I just dońt see the science yet. Please dońt get it wrong, I am totally happy with all that I learned… And for me, itś deeply spiritual, more than anything I have learned or practiced so far,… only I want to perceive it the right way. So, what I am trying to do is read it with an open mind, try to be unprejudiced, ready to be surpised by any revelation. In that, I am trying an empiric scientific approach. And I am getting, that once I get into a 10, the „lab“ might really be such, if the conditions to practice have determined factors, like in an experiment in a science lab.So, I am just seeking reassurance… well and the group, a teacher , and books of course…is that how it´ś meant? And is that all it needs? An open heart and an open mind? (Point in the heart included, for I am here…) After all,  I did not bother much about the religious impact yet, although I find the texts hard to understand as I dońt have any Jewish religious education, and the terminology reminds me so much of religion after all. Can I go on like that? Or will I just be disappointed then or getting to limits of understanding, if I dońt have that religious background ( I have a Christian background… but I never really took anything literally, and I am not into religion in terms of laws and dogmas, so I just cannot relate to it).
Thanks a lot :-))
VerenaParticipantHi, I`ve been studying with KabU only for a few months, and first of all I just wanted to leave a big and  heartfelt „THANK YOU“ to all of the KABUTeam… , the way you lead us beginners through all this is really, really helpful, and it´ś such a great setup with all the different courses, the forums, the Q/A sessions… and all those Videos, they are really amazing … I am truly grateful for the chance to study Kabbalah this way, and I so much appreciate all the work you put in this. 🥰
Now, in this forum I read a lot of very detailed questions, and quite a few of them were discussing the meaning of Torah, of some specific rituals, laws, commandments, … on the other hand, in the courses I learned that Kabbalah is exactly not about religion, that it´ś rather science, because it needs to be attained, observed and not believed in. When I started the courses, I was all intrigued by the scientific aspects of Kabbalah, maybe because I have some background there, and I really liked the idea of not having to believe but try,… anyways, now that I am progressing with the courses, I just dońt see the science yet. Please dońt get it wrong, I am totally happy with all that I learned… And for me, itś deeply spiritual, more than anything I have learned or practiced so far,… only I want to perceive it the right way. So, what I am trying to do is read it with an open mind, try to be unprejudiced, ready to be surpised by any revelation. In that, I am trying an empiric scientific approach. And I am getting, that once I get into a 10, the „lab“ might really be such, if the conditions to practice have determined factors, like in an experiment in a science lab.So, I am just seeking reassurance… is that how it´ś meant? And is that all it needs? An open heart and an open mind? (Point in the heart included, for I am here…) After all,  I did not bother much about the religious impact yet, although I find the texts hard to understand as I dońt have any Jewish religious education, and the terminology reminds me so much of religion after all. Can I go on like that? Or will I just be disappointed then or getting to limits of understanding, if I dońt have that religious background ( I have a Christian background… but I never really took anything literally, and I am not into religion in terms of laws and dogmas, so I just cannot relate to it).
Thanks a lot :-))
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October 10, 2024 at 2:56 pm EDT in reply to: Ask anything about week 4 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor. #393082VerenaParticipantThanks so much😊, now I got it 🦋
October 10, 2024 at 2:24 pm EDT in reply to: Ask anything about week 4 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor. #393078VerenaParticipantHi Gianni, thanks so much for trying to clarify this. I feel my ego is still a bit stubborn here… itś really important to me, but I feel still a bit lost… because in fact I had understood that connecting my desire and maybe those of my group (if I have one)  on behalf of a friend, that yearning for him to progress, would be a Kabbalistic prayer. And that these desires can then connect and draw the light at some point. Is that right at all? Or, if praying for connection or for others is unnatural,… then probably I just got it totally wrong? Sorry, I really dońt want to be bothering, but I really just wish to understand this, because itś just crucial for me.😊
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