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  • July 20, 2020 at 1:14 pm EDT #33838

    Gil
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    • March 19, 2024 at 10:59 pm EDT #365325
      mrc s
      Participant

      Is there a thing as false pleasure, that associated with falsehood?

    • March 19, 2024 at 6:29 pm EDT #365303
      mrc s
      Participant

      Is there a triple concealment?

      • March 19, 2024 at 6:51 pm EDT #365305
        Chris – KabU Instructor
        Moderator

        Hey mrc,

        Not “officially” but if you want to consider those who have no idea about the path of correction and how nature is leading them in a precise way–they have no clue of where their independence lies, where true fulfilment lies etc., you could say this is a deeper concealment than the double concealment, but typically we just refer to concealment relating to one whose point in the heart has already awoken.

        Chris

    • March 18, 2024 at 5:28 am EDT #365032
      Brad
      Participant

      in the blog article “religion and kabbalah are opposites” Rav writes , re: 

      “Moreover, Baal HaSulam writes that a person can only begin studying Kabbalah after he becomes secular”

      Where did the Baal HaSulam write this? I think i asked you before…

      thanks

       

      • March 19, 2024 at 6:49 pm EDT #365304
        Chris – KabU Instructor
        Moderator

        Hey Brad,

        I can find the quote, but I’ll tell you the interpretation of this requires redefining the world “secular” and “religious”. In this case, he’s referring how a person uses their will to receive. One first must be disconnected from the Giver, and this disconnection BHS refers to, often, as “secular” in one way or another. Meaning, before one can start the work in correction, the recognition of evil, of disconnection from the Source must be apparent and felt. If one is “religious”–also in the meaning you’re familiar with–this person would not feel they are lacking connection with the Source and would have no reason to engage in corrections.

        Hope that’s clear, thanks!

        • March 19, 2024 at 7:00 pm EDT #365306
          Brad
          Participant

          Amazing,  that makes more sense, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that a lot of the Kabbalistic terms need to be redefined ,yes if you have the time to find  the quote.

          thx

        • May 3, 2024 at 11:38 am EDT #371052
          Melissa Lucero
          Participant

          Disconnect from the giver?

          Who is this giver may I ask?

           

    • March 18, 2024 at 5:16 am EDT #365030
      Adams Johnson
      Participant

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    • March 17, 2024 at 11:44 pm EDT #364999
      Michael
      Participant

      how can i realize that egoism is the cause of all my problems if we haven’t obtained a true ego yet?  (the spiritual ego)

      because i was thinking about how all my problems are because of people who try to destroy me, and i guess i am egoistic because i can’t forgive them or something (even though i don’t become vindictive and try to hurt them).  you know, so i’m trying to understand how that is the real cause of all my problems in life, why i’m miserable now for instance.  but i can’t quite grasp it, because i have no choice but to survive and i never really did anything to anyone.  i don’t get what the spiritual ego is.. like am i wasting my time trying to identify it?

      • March 18, 2024 at 3:45 am EDT #365024
        Chris – KabU Instructor
        Moderator

        Hi Michael,

        Realizing it’s the cause, meaning feeling it in the deepest part of you where you actually begin to hate it is a very advanced state. We have to undergo many stages, many different sensations and discernments for the accumulation to build in us in a sufficient manner which is called “recognition of evil”. There are a few layers to that, but the true form actually becomes a prayer for change. The only way to really identify it is the inner work a person does towards others that are with them on the path. When you want to try and be opposite of the ego, when you want to try and do something for the sake of others truly, this is the only way you’ll be faced with the rejecting force. The more you work in that way the more “colors” and gradients you can perceive about what it is, this thing called “ego”.

        Thanks,

        Chris

    • March 16, 2024 at 8:34 pm EDT #364913
      Michael
      Participant

      why do we suffer throughout history if our desire was only for lesser things (not spirituality)?  wouldn’t we simply not feel the suffering because our desire wasn’t great enough?  or do we in fact suffer only to the extent that we have a desire?

      i’m really confused about what egoism actually is.  it’s not the will to receive itself is it?  and i know you guys say something like egoism doesn’t really exist until the spiritual?  i don’t understand what the mechanism of suffering is before we have developed the ego or attained spirituality.  aren’t we supposed to be like animals?

      • March 18, 2024 at 3:42 am EDT #365022
        Chris – KabU Instructor
        Moderator

        Hey Michael,

        True egoism is something spiritual already. It’s the quality opposite the quality of bestowal. Without the revelation of this force, we can’t truly feel or understand egoism. What we sense in the meantime is just the confirmation that we in fact do think only about ourselves, but this isn’t an illumination of essence of the quality itself since there’s no contrast to bestowal.

        We suffer like animals suffer, just more since we have more refined and broad desires which just means we have more ways to suffer–like you mentioned–but before the point in the heart awakens, it’s just this “program” that runs on us that brings us from state to state: carrot>stick>carrot>stick and this is our development. This is how the Creator created the system that gradually raises us to feel a need in something more. We don’t know how many times we have to take a stick before the point in the heart awakens–this has to do with the root of the soul.

        Thanks,

        Chris

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