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    Gil
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    • #463297
      Logynn
      Participant

      I need help finding a description of a “ringing coin.”

      The reference is from Rav’s blog “What Will Replace Money” :

       

      “Only if we want to replace it with the next equivalent, what can money be exchanged for, for relationships.

      It is when we understand our relationships between one another and share them among each other and the Creator. When the Creator becomes our common equivalent, then all other dimensions will disappear except for real, internal relationships between us. This is called Masach (screen) and Ohr Hozer (reflected light).

      This is what we call a coin, “ringing coin,” as they say.”

       

      I have been looking at various forms of money and money related concepts. It’s simply fascinating to me how every single one of them points back at the root. But it is rare to find a reference to the form called “coin,” and I want to see more about it since a coin seems the most relevant in terms of sides, orientation, a space between two opposites, etc.

      • #463369

        I think it’s a literal translation, probably from Russian, which makes no sense in English.

        But essentially, money is a means of exchanging forces, supposedly ‘stored’ in the currency. When the world of forces is revealed, we won’t need these papers. One pays with Ohr Hozer,  Refelected Light. That’s an opposite world in which each one competes to bestow more, without return.

         

        • #463694
          Logynn
          Participant

          Thanks

          I got a whole heap more questions when I was listening to the recording of Rabash this morning lesson. I hope you don’t mind if I just put them all here:

          I know TES is describing a whole partzuf. But is it holographic? All these events also occur in every “part,” like each of us working with the upper on our own desires?

          Is the capacity for appreciation the sensing organ for spiritual objects?

          Is a “record of coarseness” a “revelation of evil”/an ability to perceive a “transgression”?

          Is the light of the record that shines from yesod and animates malchut the “revelation of a portion”?

          Is a “spark” a new facet of a “portion” which energizes the vessel to keep working towards the reflected image of the portion?

          Is the “alignment” having the friend between you and the Creator, and feeling the light just by knowing that the Creator and yourself are both feeling the Creator is bestowing on the friend, and you feel it as if it’s bestowal on you even though you are technically in the shadow of the friend, holding the friend between yourself and the Creator?

          Does malchut leave a vessel and no record (idea) because she’s a desire with no image at the “bottom”? and keter leaves a record (idea) but no vessel at the “top” because its an ideal idea so fine we can’t desire it? And then every sefirot in between is a facet of the interaction between that desire and the idea (keter) revealed in the “portion” (the desire depicted in bestowal) that the partzuf is working with?

          Is the screen just the consequence of calculations made regarding the status of the potential reception? The calculations would be made by looking down to feel the status of the desire and looking up (most of the time) to compare it to the record of the portion?

          Is the corporeal “body” our interpretation of the “mind” (calculating and perceiving device) the upper gives us to observe all this?

          Can we pray for “the power of overcoming”?

        • #464436

          I know TES is describing a whole partzuf. But is it holographic? All these events also occur in every “part,” like each of us working with the upper on our own desires?

          They do, but it all depends if they are perceived. The symphony outside a deaf person’s ear exists – or does it?

          Is the capacity for appreciation the sensing organ for spiritual objects?

          No, but not appreciating things is what blinds us. The sensor is the Masach [screen]. Gratitude and raising the friends and the Creator is the gateway to it.

          Is a “record of coarseness” a “revelation of evil”/an ability to perceive a “transgression”?

          Coarseness by itself is not bad. It’s like money, depends what you use it for.

          Is the light of the record that shines from yesod and animates malchut the “revelation of a portion”?

          It’s a revelation of the Light to the extent that vessel can receive it to bestow.

          Is a “spark” a new facet of a “portion” which energizes the vessel to keep working towards the reflected image of the portion?

          I can’t verify that, in that way. But there’s something there.

          Is the “alignment” having the friend between you and the Creator, and feeling the light just by knowing that the Creator and yourself are both feeling the Creator is bestowing on the friend, and you feel it as if it’s bestowal on you even though you are technically in the shadow of the friend, holding the friend between yourself and the Creator?

          Correct direction. Let it be that way for now.

          Does malchut leave a vessel and no record (idea) because she’s a desire with no image at the “bottom”? and keter leaves a record (idea) but no vessel at the “top” because its an ideal idea so fine we can’t desire it? And then every sefirot in between is a facet of the interaction between that desire and the idea (keter) revealed in the “portion” (the desire depicted in bestowal) that the partzuf is working with?

          Malchut has an image, but one opposite to the Creator. She is the shape of a vessel of reception. It needs to become like the Keter.

          Is the screen just the consequence of calculations made regarding the status of the potential reception? The calculations would be made by looking down to feel the status of the desire and looking up (most of the time) to compare it to the record of the portion?

          Loosely we can say it is along those lines.

          Is the corporeal “body” our interpretation of the “mind” (calculating and perceiving device) the upper gives us to observe all this?

          It’s a copy of all the spiritual processes of the Partzuf. That’s why they’ll never correctly understand it, in our world, not even a little.

          Can we pray for “the power of overcoming”?

          Yes. Pray for it for the friends.

        • #463713
          Logynn
          Participant

          Another one keeps coming to mind. He mentioned that there was a “detaining force” that prevented a vessel from filling before its intention was ready.

          If we have an egoistic desire (or a portion that we don’t have the right intention towards) and we are able to sense all the ways it would be a catastrophe to make a movement towards filling it… is that sensation our own judgment/discernment. Or is it a sensation of the detaining force? Or is it “ibur” and it’s just a time to not try to answer your own prayer, and to annul to the upper?

          And if it is a sense of the detaining force, do we always get to keep that? Will we always “know” when the desire should be restricted. Or is there a point at which we are alone with it and have to make the calculation without help?

        • #464454

          The detaining force is the Malchut that is Restricted, which one has to maintain, or, if we’re before the Restriction, to try to approximate, as if we would love to be in such a state.

        • #464469
          Logynn
          Participant

          It’s easy to love it when you get even a fraction of the image of it.

          Thank you so much for all these answers.

    • #462521
      Verena
      Participant

      Gianni, thank you for all these answers. In the TES chapters that are currently being studyied in the morning lessons, there is so much precious information on how the lights cascade downwards and upwards, how they leave records in the vessels or sometimes not… it seems on the one handside simple laws, but then again this beautiful complexity unfolds. What are we humans doing in this? It seems like we are way too “roughly cut”, too coarse, to work with it.  When you wrote about asking and trying to connect more , that this is the one task… is this the one act we can  do to create an awakening from below?And as a consequence, does this make us a conduit for the light, so that the surrounding light can shine more precisely and into a specific deficiency? Is that when it becomes the reforming light, and thus the path of suffering becomes enhanced into a path of light?  And for us… is it that we have to be in this deficiency, so that the process of creation evolves more?We are just desires, right? Meaning… is our role to be the ones in the darkness, in the pain, struggling to get out of it?

      • #462524

        We need to reach the quality of bestowal from its opposite. From free choice. We’re not reading about such states in TES. There, we’re talking about a whole vessel, not like us, shattered parts of a vessel. There, it’s in contact with the Light. It can be different kinds of Light, but there is contact. What about us? We have no contact. That’s a state when you can say you’re free. You can decide to invite the Light or not. Which Light do you have contact with? Only the Light of correction. You want to correct yourself? As much and as quickly as you’d like.

    • #462422
      Helen
      Participant

      Hi Gianni, what’s the difference/connection between the original desire to receive that was created in Keter and Adam haRishon and the Kli we are trying to form right now? was there a Kli before Adam haRishon?, if not, what did the light fill? was there “conciseness” before Adam haRishon? if so, how did all those “realization” formed which led to “decisions” on rejecting light,  to only receive a portion,  to receive all there is?

      thank you as always.

      Helen

      • #462525

        The difference is unfathomable. We’re in a broken vessel so we can’t even imagine a whole vessel like existed in Adam HaRishon. For now, we’re just trying to build a desire for spirituality, the importance of the goal so that we will go toward connection with our broken, missing parts. We won’t be allowed to connect incorrectly so if we connect it will already be a corrected kli the light can fill.

        • #462548
          Helen
          Participant

          Hi Gianni,

          what do I use to build the desire and importance? desire is by creator, thoughts/emotions are by him as well, point in the heart is also by him. if it’s how I related to those thoughts/emotions, what do I use to relate to? not my 5 sense, not via thinking or feeling as those are from the creator. all those tools to change the intention and importance: thoughts, emotions, desire, point in the heart are all by creator, what exactly is my tool?

          thanks

          Helen

        • #462562

          The thoughts come to you from Him but you can increase the thoughts you want, through the society, books, lessons. Affect the society and that will affect your thoughts.

        • #462601
          Helen
          Participant

          what do I leverage on to increase the thoughts that I want? I mean how do I decide what I want? through thinking? which is not in my hands, is it?  you mentioned through the society, books, lessons, but I will have to decide to do those to start with, how do I decide? via desire/thoughts/emotions? but those are not in my hands..it’s a circle that doesn’t involve me it seems. where is ME?

        • #462612

          Nevertheless, there are in you thoughts about this and thoughts about that. There are thoughts that are toward the goal. You need to invest more in them, when you have them. When you don’t have them, you can’t do anything. But according to how you invest when you do have them, in the friends, the books, the lessons, and so on – accordingly, these thoughts will increase. In this, you have free will. Only in the strengthening, especially in strengthening the environment. This is what is written.

    • #462404
      Ricki
      Participant

      As far as I’m aware, the screen restricts the light that enters the vessel and we can come to sense the upper worlds by means of reflected light. Is it accurate to say that I wear a screen? Is it possible to know when the screen is present or absent, the quality of the screen (i.e. how thick/ layered it is, the texture, how developed it is), and in what capacity there is choice here? Thank you.

      • #462408

        “I wear a screen” I haven’t heard. Kabbalists say, the Will to Receive is restricted, with a screen over it.

        It’s possible and certain that we know if we have a screen, and precisely which coarseness we work with, against which screen. If one didn’t know, he might receive in order to receive.

        There is certainly choice in this. Now there is choice when to reach this. Either now, running forward, bursting, until we reach it – or no: we have something else we prefer to enjoy now instead.

        Later, there’s a different kind of choice, when we have the screen.

        • #462411
          Ricki
          Participant

          What are some ways I can reach this now? I don’t want to receive in order to receive during gatherings with my ten anymore.

           

        • #462508

          If you really want it then ask the Creator, and ask until it happens.

        • #462526
          Ricki
          Participant

          Thank you Gianni. You have been a great teacher to me over the years. You have my utmost respect and I wish for you the best of luck and favour in His eyes, always.

           

        • #462537

          Thank you, my friend.

    • #462315
      Verena
      Participant

      Hi Gianni, thanks a lot for answering all these questions. There is another one that really strikes me…

      What is the spiritual impact of connecting with the world kli in the morning lesson… not for oneself , but the whole? I understand it’s about drawing the light that reforms… what is the impact of doing this in the world kli? In a nutshell… what should be our attitude, focus, and which role should we accept in the male OR female root as we commit ourselves to this part of the work?

      And as we try, how can we become a conscious part of this system, take our place and add our work, love and connection in terms of drawing the light that reforms?

      Thank you:)

      • #462321

        That’s already enough that you connect for the purpose of the whole. If you organize this intention, the Will to Receive already takes away one’s forces to work, and then you have to pray.

        There isn’t a big difference between men and women. The work is the same. Both are trying to come from one’s root of reception to the quality of bestowal, by overcoming all kinds of alternative desires and intentions.

        The main thing is that every moment we expect the Light to work now, provide an invitation to it to do the Creator’s Will upon us.

        • #462347
          Verena
          Participant

          Thank you Gianni… now, my question is maybe a bit weird, but why do we try to draw the light that reforms? What should be our intention for the whole when we ask for it? This world is so in need of it, we are in need of it… but I feel I don’t understand what I am asking.

        • #462379

          Why draw the Reforming Light? Because that’s the force in nature that is developing everything toward the realization of the Thought of Creation. If no one asks, then it gets there anyway, but slow and painful. I just need to ask for development toward connection, first in the part that is moving there on their own, the ten. If I can add the whole world kli too, even better, and if I can add that it’s for the Creator’s sake…

    • #462189
      Verena
      Participant

      Hi Gianni, I have got a question… which is relating to the process that has been given to us to form this new ten. It´s amazing friends around everywhere. But I don´t feel any ten inside of me or around me anymore, You may say it was supposed to be for the good or in order to challenge the will to receive… whatever… I got lost on that way. Because some friends  of my old ten were left behind or struggle, …it´s like that ten we felt we had remains existent, but since not all friends are in this “new ten”… now it´s like being in two tens  or in no ten at all…I am trying to just do the work, but  I just realise that formula of a ten doesn´t exist in me anymore, I can´t relate to it… and much as I try, I cannot rebuild it… I try of course, as I have been told to do that. But soon as I try to immerse with the new group, I feel those that have been left behind, … it´s like I am supposed to choose which part of the organism I attach to, but I cannot be with both…. …and resultingly I end up nowhere. Which means I feel like I cannot do the work anymore… because I am not part of anything. What is the right thing to do?

      • #462194

        I don’t know about the exact situation, but I understand all these feelings when getting assigned a new ten; I’ve been through it a few times. And it’s just that all of you to some extent still disagree with the decision, and you don’t want to let go of your opinion completely. So, it’s like I’m engaged to be married now, but I have this one ex-girlfriend that I’m still thinking about. And each day, I’m checking evaluating my fiancé against the possibility of going back to my ex. So, it turns out that I’m not quite invested because I still have one foot out the door. It’s simply that where the Will to Receive has invested, it remains invested, as it wants its payment for its investment. It’s the same mechanism when you’ve invested in a husband, and for another woman to now acquire him and with him the work you’ve invested in him, you feel a degree of bitterness about that. What is the solution? I invest in my new ten, and to the extent that my investment in them outweighs my investment in my previous ten, I will only focus on my new ten. That’s how it will work, because that’s how we’re built.

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