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- April 21, 2020 at 6:46 pm EDT #28807
Tony Kosinec- KabU InstructorModeratorAsk anything about week 4 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor.
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- December 20, 2023 at 7:38 am EST #337623BenParticipant
Is it correct to make sense of the these phases (1,2,3) as it relates to the development of human embryo until birth?
- December 20, 2023 at 7:56 pm EST #337661Seth – KabU InstructorModerator
Ben,
You can do that.
We are learning about the fundamental structures of reality, so you will see this pattern everywhere you look later.
Seth@KabU
- December 8, 2023 at 11:00 am EST #336662LuckyParticipant
Is the capacity of Kli of everyone the same?, if not, what’s make the difference?
- December 20, 2023 at 7:59 pm EST #337662Seth – KabU InstructorModerator
Lucky,
It’s like there is a giant boat and we need to cross a mountain range, so we take the boat apart and each one of us carries a part of it, some of us carry a part of it together.
A few carry the sail, an entire team carries the mast. Someone else takes the steering wheel, etc. and we carry it over the mountains and when we get back to the water on the other side, we can put it together. So even though some have the sail and others have a piece of wood that will go on the deck, each piece is important and needed, but all are different.
Seth@KabU
- December 6, 2023 at 8:29 pm EST #336564LuckyParticipant
It is said the Phase is macro template of everything in this world, could you please share several examples
- December 6, 2023 at 10:42 pm EST #336568Seth – KabU InstructorModerator
Lucky,
I don’t understand your question.
What Phase is a macro of everything?
Seth@KabU
- December 5, 2023 at 1:35 am EST #336402LoydaParticipant
In one of the suggested readings for lesson 3, it was recommended that we talk to as few people as possible and basically deal with the outside world only if necessary. I like the idea, but I thought the purpose of Kabbalah was connection. So when I read that, it came across as a contradiction.
- December 5, 2023 at 8:42 am EST #336419Seth – KabU InstructorModerator
Loyda,
OK, so first of all, imagine you are a child and you went to see the Olympic figure skaters and you decide at that moment that that is what you want to do with your life.
Mom agrees and the next day you go and buy skates and sign up for lessons.
Now first day on the ice, do you look like the olympians? How about after one week? One year…five years?
So you read something, but first of all you need to understand what it means and second of all, you need to understand that you can’t just jump on the ice and execute it. When you do what the book says, you will already be in a good life, in contact with the Creator and harmoniously integrated with the world around you.What the text is telling you is that we are completely influenced by the world around us, the food advertising, the political advertising, the news, the movies, the music, the fashion around us, it all influences who we are and how we think, feel and behave.
In short, you came to a place where people are studying an authentic method of spiritual attainment passed from teacher to student for 1000s of years. In this environment is where you can talk a lot about what we are studying, but bringing this outside, no one will understand what you are talking about, you can’t go into the supermarket and start saying that there is no time and space and everything is love.
You wrote, “only if necessary”, so more or less, that’s most of your day, kids go to school, we take care of them, we go to work, the grocery store, pay the bills, exercise to stay healthy, spend time with our relatives, so all of that is necessary and with the 1 hour of free time that you have, so there deal with your spiritual life.Later, after you have been washed in the wisdom for some time, you will feel how it affects your thoughts and desires and it stays with you as you go to the market and work, etc.
And regarding connecting the wisdom to the outside world, this also will come later, once you integrate the wisdom there will be many opportunities to spread the wisdom in the form of books or videos, songs, poems, sharing links online, there are 1000s of ways to connect more and more people to the good. We’ll get into all of that later.
Good luck, take it slow and with much more nuance and everything will develop in a healthy way,
Seth@KabU- December 5, 2023 at 2:03 pm EST #336452LoydaParticipant
Are you saying this is about talking about Kabbalah?
“We must also avoid contact with other people, except when it becomes necessary for work or for study, without deliberately shunning them, but keeping our thoughts continuously in check. When necessary, we can think of our work. The rest of the time we should devote to contemplating the purpose of life” Attaining the Worlds Beyond p.114.
My understanding was that the text was talking about my life in general, about staying away from people, period. It didn’t occur to me that it was talking about spiritual matters. I agree with regards to spirituality. Talking about it with people not in the path would be pointless, especially Kabbalah which I am struggling to understand myself. It is not something I am interesting in doing.
- December 6, 2023 at 10:41 pm EST #336567Seth – KabU InstructorModerator
Loyda,
Don’t take anything practically yet if it’s not clear.
Read what I wrote above about the olympic ice skater and realize that what you entered is a million times greater than that.
So don’t think that you read some paragraph and now you will just go do it. You need to read a lot, experience a lot and slowly it will work on you and you will understand what it means.
Live a normal life with family, work, health, neighbors, etc.
The gist of what it is talking about is that thoughts and desires pass from person to person. And you are cultivating a spiritual worldview and you want to care for it and not be all day confused by CNN and BBC and Beyonce and the Yankees and Levi and Walmart and everything else except for the meaning of life.
Seth@KabU
- December 3, 2023 at 1:48 am EST #336251carlosParticipant
If the creator bestows upon me desease, how can I use my screen to accept it completly? should I remain ill and eventually die or seek treatment, since it was the upper force that desired for my sickness?
Similarly, how do we apply the screen to basic survival needs, such as breathing and eating, since these actions are completly egoistic, the air and food Im consuming could be “bestowed” to others?
- December 5, 2023 at 1:51 pm EST #336449LoydaParticipant
Reply to wrong thread. Can’t delete.
- December 3, 2023 at 8:52 am EST #336269Seth – KabU InstructorModerator
Carlos,
If you are sick you must go to a good, competent doctor. The Creator gave permission to the doctor to heal.
We do our practical work together in a special arrangement of Kabbalists called a group of 10, you will learn about it in the future.
From that work you will be able to develop a screen and with it you will be able to relate to all of your life.But now you can imagine while you eat and do all of these things that you are doing what you must but your intention is that all of the pleasure and good will pass though you and onto all of creation, to bring contentment to the Creator.
Seth@KabU
- November 29, 2023 at 9:09 pm EST #336084Zachary HanlonParticipant
Is there a concept of sin in Kabbalah? Or would this just be the refusal of the light, or a misplaced desire to receive?
- November 30, 2023 at 8:03 am EST #336107Seth – KabU InstructorModerator
Zachary,
There is a concept of sin in the wisdom of kabbalah, but like all of the other definitions, that have been taken by others who stole them or just used them and then through the generations they were corrupted, so when we arrive back at the books that were written by the kabbalists, meaning, only by those who attained what they are writing, all that we read from Baal HaSulam was written from his attainment, there is no philosophy, no theorizing.
So we need to recalibrate ourselves to definitions.
Take a word from our normal life like “cool”, someone can say, “that’s so cool”. No go back 200 years ago and use the word “cool” of course someone would have different understanding of the word.
Now we are talking 1000s of years and not only that we’re not even talking about the same world. “cool” and “cool” seperated by 200 years are still on Earth.
But not only do we need to grasp the words of the kabbalists, we also need to grasp that they are describing a spiritual system, they use a special language called roots and branches, so they point to something in this world and refer to its root in the spiritual world.Regarding sin. In order to sin, one would need to do something, let’s say against the Creator. However, no one can do anything against the Creator since each person is 100% controlled by their desires and has no freedom of movement to the left or to the right and if he didn’t think he’d get more pleasure from say, lifting his finger to scratch his cheek, then he’d leave his hand where it was.
So on this degree, there is no such thing as sin. And there are many scrutinise and questions that everyone has about how and why and what about….
In order to sin, one needs to be in place exactly between reception and bestowal, half way between 100% to receive for himself and 100% connected to the Creator. From that place there is free will and from there it can be said that there could be a sin.
We will learn about this later.
Seth@KabU
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