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    • #427014
      Rex Jebamoney
      Participant

      On the phases on one side is Behina Aleph, Bet etc., On the other side is Chochma, Bina etc., This is confusing to my understanding.  I think it probably because I have a certain perception and this doesn’t fit that perception. In other words I need to develop a new perception to understand. I am wondering if this is what is written in the book of Genesis, the story of creation?

      • #427023

        Rex,
        The root phase corresponds to Keter, also the world of Adam Kadmon, also the Yechida of the soul, etc.
        Phase one corresponds to Hochma, also the world of Atzilut, also Haya of the soul, etc.
        Phase two corresponds to Bina, also the world of Beriyah, also Neshama of the soul, etc.
        Phase three corresponds to Zeir Anpin, also the world of Yetzirah, also Ruach of the soul, etc.
        Phase four corresponds to Malchut, also the world of Malchut, also Nefesh of the soul, etc.

        All of this is coded in the Bible.
        Seth@KabU

    • #426907
      ami
      Participant

      Is shame the reason for the rejection of the light in Behina Bet?

      I know these 4 Phases have to do with the upper worlds, but does this process also reflect in the lives of individuals?

      Can some one become aware of the source of the giving and be ashamed, and reject the gifts that the Creator wants to give?

      I asked in weeks 2 & 3 if the correction for this would be to agree to receive in order to be able to bestow upon ourselves (“corrected” receiving) and bestow on others, is my understanding correct?

       

      • #431631
        Lorie
        Participant

        Hi Seth,

        Your answer is really helpful.

      • #427079
        Rex Jebamoney
        Participant

        Thank you Seth. The whole concept is still challenging, but it is probably due to my lack of knowledge of the wisdom. I have listened to Tony a few times now, and each time a new window opens. The Hebrew words also throw me off. I will persevere.

      • #427022

        Ami,
        The shame and rejection comes later in phase 4, in Malchut of Ein Sof when she feels that she is 100% receiver while the Creator is 100% bestowing and she is therefore 100% opposite from Him.

        The spiritual action is in the intention, the point is not to receive, for the purpose of creation is for the creature to receive all the abundance, however the correction of creation is that the creature receives it not for his own benefit, but for the sake of the Creator, in order to bestow.
        I don’t know what you mean by “bestowing upon ourselves”.  To bestow means to bestow upon the others/the Creator.
        Seth@KabU

        • #427031
          ami
          Participant

          By “bestowing upon ourselves”, I mean receiving in a way that removes the shame by “allowing” ourselves to receive the pleasure that the Creator wants to give us. If we are all one soul, then surely we must treat ourselves the same way we treat others, with the same intention of bestowal, and seeing ourselves as worthy of the Creator’s light.

          I say all this in order to know how to deal with shame for receiving our desires. PhaseGimmel helps explain how this can be done, where the creature agrees to receive some of the light, not for itself, but for the benefit of the Creator. How does one do that?

           

    • #426625
      Amber
      Participant

      I have  questions that were asked of me that I have no direct answer for:

      How did Adam get the code?

      When the phrase The fear of God what does that mean? Why would I fear my Creator or better yet why should I?

      Thank you

      Amber

      • #427021

        Amber,
        Before Adam, everyone lived only by instinct and the influence of the environmental factors, there was no such thing that there was a creature that could do something above nature.  Additionally, in our times, our aviut is much greater, imagine if the electricity went out in the house or running water or heat stopped working in the house, to us that would be a problem, but 5000+ years ago, there was not even the concept of such things and everyone lived much closer to nature, much more in tune with the rhythms of nature, the seasons, when the sun was up people were up, when the sun went down, people rested, etc.
        Just as the planet got covered in vegetation in a step by step sequence and not all at once and just as the planet was populated by animals in a sequence and not all at once, so similarly out of this development came the first human creature who reached the next stage of develpment, spiritual attainment, it was a natural process.

        Regarding fear, this requires understanding these words in the correct context.  Spiritual “fear” called yirah, is the feeling that I love someone so much that I am afraid to lose them.  If I don’t care about someone then I don’t care if I lose them, but the more someone is important to me, the more I fear to lose them.  Or for example you know that the Creator is coming to your house today and you feel the inner pressure that you want everything to be just right, to clean everything, to prepare everything.  If you don’t care about Him, so leave the dirty dishes in the sink, but if He is so important to you, you worry that everything will be just right.
        Why should you?
        That is up to. to realize.
        Seth@KabU

    • #421230
      Marlaina
      Participant

      Is it true then, when one Individual rises, we all rise together wherever we are on our individual journey?

      • #422415

        Madelainne,
        Yes.  Although we don’t feel it, we are all part of one spiritual body.
        Just like a fetus develops in the womb, first a little arm growth, then leg, then more heart and then this and that.
        It is the same for all humanity, a little over here, then more over there.
        Seth@KabU

    • #420599
      Vincent Leduc
      Participant

      Great video!

    • #420063
      Stella
      Participant

      I’m so sorry to admit that I’m still very confused. If  the creature cannot be a giver because of its nature. Wouldn’t becoming a vessel for the light be receiving and not giving? Why would the creator make the creature to receive and expect it to bestow if it isn’t in the creature’s nature? What’s the point of it? What confuses me the most is weather or not it is intended for the creature to receive all the pleasures that the Creator wants to give it, due to understanding that this is what was intended for it in the beginning. Does the quality of the desire changes de act or receiving and bestowing? Thanks for clarifying.

      • #422414

        Stella,
        I’m so happy to read each one of your questions as you are asking exactly accurately and correctly.
        These are all the questions Baal HaSulam asks and then answers.
        Before these questions arise, there is no need for answers so we continue living our normal animal life, but when we come to approach the Creator many questions arise, why, how, when???
        The good news is that in our study we will approach each and every one of your questions thoroughly.  While I can give you some answers here, the real answers in the wisdom of kabbalah don’t enter the ear, they enter the heart.
        In short, to fill the creation endlessly, the Creator needed to make an endless vessel.  This is called the purpose of creation, to fill the creation endlessly.
        However this leads to a problem, now the creation is 100% opposite from the Creator.  One is giving and the other receiving.
        So next we learn about a process called the correction of creation, whereby the creation corrects itself to receive (it must, that is the purpose of creation), but it receives in order to pass the Light on to the rest of creation, in essence pass the Light back to the Creator as in I am my Beloved’s and my Beloved is mine.
        Seth@KabU

        • #426897
          ami
          Participant

          Hey Seth, looks like this response answered my question from week 2:

          “Do we have to transform our will to receive into a form of bestowal upon ourselves?

          Meaning, we turn the receiving of our own desires/pleasures into an act of giving them to ourselves consciously, instead of just unconsciously taking?”

          It looks like Phase 4 says we do exactly this, to receive everything from the Creator in order for our vessel to “overflow” and be able to give endlessly like Him.

          • This reply was modified 9 months, 3 weeks ago by ami.
        • #427024

          Ami,
          Phase 4 receives everything and also feels that she is receiving everything.
          You can juxtapose this to a flower or a fish who consumes nourishment but doesn’t have consciousness that “now I am receiving”.
          All of the correction happens upon phase 4, later in the process where the desire in phase 4 gets corrected.
          Seth@KabU

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