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VerenaParticipantAnd there is yet another question…
If each time we grow, the only things we discover, are, that we are not there yet, that we still cannot really connect, love or even bestow…and our vessels get shattered again and again… and in fact it seems like in a spiral… the circles get bigger and wider, but we still come to the same points again and again… then how do we hold on? Groups get shattered, tens get shattered, working frames or corporeal lives get shattered… how do we justify that and hold on- especially when things gets shattered simultaneausly… ? What is the counterbalance that allows faith to regrow again and again?
VerenaParticipantHi Gianni, what in a prayer makes it reach the creator? I understand there are prayers from the bottom of the heart. And I heard about prayer of many. But what are the forces in such prayers that can reach out to the creating force and evoke a response? And what should be our intention? Especially with prayer from the bottom of the heart…if they come from a place of devestation , where there is no other counsel… how can these prayers be heard?
VerenaParticipantHi Gianni, how can we differentiate between psychological effects versus spiritual effects in the work? Take work in the group for example.. while one finds enlightenment , the other may find conflicts … we say the Shechina dwells in the connection between us… how do we not fool ourselves…? And to the opposite, how do we gain spiritual awareness as oposed to blindly following orders? On other words: How can we truly attain anything?
VerenaParticipantThanks for that… now, since there are so many obstacles and shatterings basically everywhere… what precisely do we need to hold on to…? What IS the lifeline
in the teaching /RAV/books that keeps a ten functional? What in this truly makes a group a ten, and strangers become friends? And when this is being challenged, how can we protect it… how can we invite the creator to truly dwell in it?
VerenaParticipantAdding to the above.. and it may sound foolish to even ask…but I thought to at least try…if we say we wish to bring contentment to the creator… and we pray for that even… how can we ask gor this correctly? I try to imagine that… being able to bring contentment to the creator… but “I” cannot do any such thing it seems, because I have been designed the opposite way. Now, that doesn’t hook me off.. I just wonder how to ask and really stick to ehat I have just asked… being a human being, being a will to receive and having this ego pushing and wanting to protect me but separating me from being part of the whole… How do I ask correctly? How can I bring contentment to the creator?
VerenaParticipantHi Gianni, how can we come to a true intention to bestow while still being linked to our ego, and to this world ? Like really from the bottom of our hearts, really for the friends…or really to give contentment above… and not in the end just for our own progress/ our own wish to adhere to the creator/ our own correction? How can we avoid using connection/ dissemination/ actions of bestowal to tune “ourselves”?
I am struggling with those “mechanical actions “, because I feel it’s like cheating the system and abusing the options we have, if I cannot restrict my ego beforehand . … which would love such actions…but for its own benefit.
But to really want for the friends … not mechanically, but with true love….how can we do this? Or even overcoming ourselves… going to a meeting or lesson when there is no taste of anything… how can we do this without wanting it for our selves in the end? What is the restriction I need to put before any such action, and what do I have to fuel into the ego engine meanwhile ,so the engine won’t stutter too badly and still allow me to keep going?
I am not sure if any of this makes sense to ask… it’s just that I don’t want to “use” the system… or even worse “abuse” it… but the ego uses basically everything… so I am looking for a way to either quiet the ego or to give it something to chew on…just to keep it busy… so it won’t mess up all efforts. But just for now that seems rather impossible, so I am a bit clueless.- AuthorReplies

