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    Verena
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    Hi Gianni, since you mentioned that analogy with the “meat suit” I kept wondering and wondering, how I can integrate that picture, while looking at all the pain people go through, I am wondering if truly nothing in this pain people experience has  a purpose. And then, why it nontheless has to be. I get why it is called the path of suffering. But I don’t understand why it has to be like that, if it does not even have any relevance for our development… or maybe just a minimum , for even the path of suffering still is a path of development. I suppose this question has been asked a million times before… but how can I be true with that? I could pretend not to feel any pain or become negligent towards the struggles people tell me about, thinking, this is just the meat suits going through it, and once I am dead, I won’t remember anyways… my brain will be gone and so will the pain. But it doesn’t work like that… this illusion we are caught in, seems too real to pretend, it seems. I have tried to just split it… two different things… corporeal versus spiritual… but the question remains … how to deal with the pains of the meat suits, physically  and emotionally, correctly?

    in reply to: Ask Anything #430608
    Verena
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    Thank you so much, Gianni, for your answers, and this beautiful clip, this is so helpful! I feel so much has clarified, just it opened up one last question…I am wondering if a Kabbalistic song can actually come from one single individual  (if yes, probably only someone who really feels that connection from deep within) , or if essentially it is carried by what would be felt in the center of a ten, carried by the love that resides in the connection and nullification of the many? Expressed differently, does the song “get” its power through the intention with which it is played or listened to, or does it “have” a power (I don’t know if power is the right word… but even though there were all the doubts about the purpose of songs expressed in the clip, I feel , the Kabbalistic songs to be like a power plant for connection). And finally, I wonder if  the words used in a song can actually express the ‘inner moo’  or will rather hinder us from getting there, as the mind will relate them to memories from corporeal life… thus, can we listen to these thongs innocently like children (which is what I do most of the time), or do we have to form our intention first?

    in reply to: Ask Anything #430590
    Verena
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    Hi Gianni, there is just one more question adding to this: what is the essence of a piece of Kabbalistic music, say, you would want to write one. I understand how the “classics” came into being. But there are a lot of beautiful pieces on soundcloud.  Now, what is the essence of composing them? Doing it with friends? Trying to feel the purpose of love, connection and unity? Raising a prayer?

    I understand with other pieces of music, artists express themselves and their connection to this world including all the inner states. But what about Kabbalistic music?

    in reply to: Ask Anything #430586
    Verena
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    Hi, we have been studying about the meaning of music in our ten… now, this was really a beautiful experience, because music can touch the point in the heart very directly, it seems. In Melodies of the upper World Part 1, it was described,  how the perception of music changes as you develop. So, it was said,  a piece may seem sad if you hear it with most peoples’ point of perception, i.e. feeling only lack/deficiency of the vessel , whereas a Kabbalist, who is adhered to the upper force, might only feel excitement. Then I really started to wonder, how our layers of existence intertwine.What is the connection between our point in the heart with the body/mind/heart trias we run our lives with? Is the life we lead anything more than just a basic corporeal programme needed to start the spiritual programme? Does it actually have any spiritual relevance? Or could we just have ANY heart/mind/body trias to go with, ANY random life story, ANY set of experiences in life-good or bad-and it doesn’t matter at all, because we will leave it behind when we die anyways? Currently it feels to me that the set of  heart/mind body we receive when we are born is just like a functional suit designed for us to experience things in a certain way and grow through through the given experience. Could it be like this?

     

    in reply to: Ask Anything #430429
    Verena
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    Adding to this: “in me” includes whatever happens in the work in the ten, whatever is tangible in the YG… it is rather “between” the friends… but so far my perception only allows for me to feel this still in resonence  “in me”  (I don´thrive for staying there)

    in reply to: Ask Anything #430428
    Verena
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    Hi Gianni, what is the importance of studying the details of the mechanics of the spiritual worlds as compared to the importance of learning through experience in the ten? I feel my energy directs towards connection, towards “experience”, and currently it is really  a felt wisdom rather than one   approach scientifically, but I am wondering if this is just a phase, if it should be different… I am starting to feel neglicent about learning all the details… but then I feel, I woudl only be able to understand the descriptions through my mind. I don´t have words to describe what I feel, anyways, but what I feel is what makes the difference in me and how I perceive these things, how I perceive connection and unity … How is it wise to grow from there? From the heart to the mind? Both at the same time?  Or the other way round?

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