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Hi Gianni, thanks so much for answering. I think I got the second part of your answer, but I am afraid I didn´t understand the first part… “We don’t pray the prayer for connection of what’s broken (the shattered soul) that the Creator responds to.”
Why wouldn´t we pray for that? I understand we don´t pray for what we want or need for ourselves and others, and even less for being advantaged over others – minding that the upper force has only “the good” in it and will provide us with what we need to grow (even if that may be rather the opposite of what we seek in our lives…). But why wouldn´t we pray for connection? I thought that is what it is about? I feel I am getting this totally wrong… I thought a prayer is the yearning to be connected to the upper light, and if we address it to the upper force in terms of developing ourselves in order to understand and change ourselves towards this connection that´s a prayer? And if we address it to the upper force in terms of helping our friends develop in their journey, that is what will make the desire an then connection even stronger? I am happy with any help to understand this :-))
I feel very much in those two environments or worlds at the same time now- the spiritual one and the corporeal one. And the more I learn about connection and prayer and the upper force, the more I feel or sense how different they both are. It’s  a big change in my perspective to actually feel those differences and it challenges my perception and concepts. It’s challenging, too, to give both its place and not muddle it up…especially now, when it’s all still new and undeveloped, but still so strong.
In a way, in terms of spirituality, all of this is mindblowing, and so beautiful, but to think of working in a group also challenges my need to trust. After all, it’s all about humans, and while maybe nothing is coincidental and even conflicts are great to learn, I feel a bit insecure about what working in a spiritual group will be like.
Is there only conscious prayer or also unconscious prayer? I am just thinking of infants or children because of the analogy of the bond between mother and baby…is there any such thing as a natural , uneducated connection that those little ones can feel or draw? Or is this the stage where they feel just abandoned? I know birth is considered as being traumatic in itself partially because of the loss of overall protection and care… but how is it considered in terms of spirituality?
Well, I dońt know for sure, since I have not been working in a Kabbalistic group yet, but I assume it means to listen to the others carefully, and with an open heart, to help them to reflect their experiences and encourage them to  keep going… with the knowledge and understanding gained so far. And I would suppose , working with each other this way itself creates a new energy and connection, which I would consider to be an important  goal of coming together. I am excited to try … 🙂
Thank you, this is very helpful… and I really appreciate the link… itś exactly how it feels, so I feel  I am starting to get it now :-))
I am very thankful to learn about the spirituality of connection, and I am impressed by its inner logic. I feel a bit torn about the linear description of development, as life often doesńt seem to follow linear processes, but I am also getting that there will be enoughs ups and downs in each phase, setbacks includes, in order to grow, because these dynamics may be inherent at any stage. Kabbalah right now feels very natural, and true, but also different to what I knew and learned about spirituality before, and the quality of how it feels or works in me is very different to what I felt so far.  Therefore, itś kind of saying goodbye to some warm/ heartfelt connection that I used to gain easily, and changing it to something I have not even attained yet.. that is a big decision. However, I am also getting this focus on connection and atruism is what has always been missing, and therefore I feel very confident to be on the right track, and so far it doesńt matter to me which stage I am in, because all I would like to do, is to give this process a chance to focus my intention on bestowal, the chance to share that development with others.
