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    Ask anything about week 4 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor.

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    • #431971
      Aleksandar
      Participant

      Hello all, I hope you are all having a great day and that God is merciful to you. I’m enjoying the course so far, but one thing has been bothering me, and I was hoping someone could help shed some light on it.

       

      As I understand from the Bible, the Earth was created in six days and is around 6,000 years old. Man was made in the image of God, formed from the dust of the ground, and had the breath of life breathed into his nostrils.

       

      However, the information presented in this course seems different — it talks about the Big Bang, that we’ve been living on Earth for millions of years, and that we descended from monkeys, which sounds more like the theory of evolution.

       

       

      • #432099

        Aleksander,
        There is no problem here.
        In spirituality there is no time.  Time is something that appears to us in our limited perception.   There is an infinite world outside of each of us and all that we perceive is the small amount of data that enters into us through our eyes, ears, nose, mouth and touch.
        In order to describe the system outside of us, the system that we are in, kabbalists describe this using different languages.  The wisdom of kabbalah uses a more technical language, the language of the Bible uses a language that sounds more like legends and history.  There is no contradiction, only our limited perception of reality.
        A newborn baby has arms and legs and ears but if you put him in a wonderful concert hall filled with world class musicians, he won’t appreciate what is going on at all.  He will lay on the ground helpless until someone would help him, hold him, feed him, care for him, whereas a grown adult could sit and listen and be overwhelmed with joy and emotion from the music or moved to tears by its beauty.
        So two people, at two levels of development experience the same thing in two completely different ways.
        So follow the courses and you will understand what it means by six days, how it relates to the sefirah of Zeir Anpin in the world of Beriah, what are the 6000 years which are the period of time of the correction of the soul, which refers to degrees above this world.

        The Big Bang and monkeys, these things appear in our consciousness, when we study reality, it seems that this is how it is, and we will learn about that too.
        Seth@KabU

    • #431858
      Maggie
      Participant

      texts are written within constructs of time and environment. Texts are documents which are copied and edited to be instructive adjusting for the evolving collective consciousness.
      A student 5 thousand years ago would not  have psychological and intellectual scaffolding we have
      geometry and mathematics and 3 dimensional frames were the highest evolution at y th he time   The message was interpreted in tryst context

      while id find it interesting to be in Copernicus’ class I would know I had genetically inherited functions that would require further translation sophistication – beyond words including concepts and structures to be able to learn

      Be where you are now, enjoy the history but read for the intent! not the obfuscation of archaic limitations

      and careful for the egoistic view that you have the only truth the only path to peace

       

      let us wrestle with words and meaning and inent

      let us not assume superiority

      let us not create us and them

      isn’t there enough of that?

      Do we not know what Enforced conformity does?

      isn’t hearing each other, recognizing the familial common bonds between us through time space and dimension the core of Kabbalah?

       

       

       

       

      • #433020
        Maggie
        Participant

        Hi Seth.
        I find the unique and very narrow interpretation of this one among many Kabbalist experts to be inconsistent and problematic.
        Kabbalah is by ANY measure multidimensional.
        Creator is All and one.
        there cannot be therefore only one right interpretation or one right was to peace.

        and! read Job, this presents suffering as deserved (that unacceptable link about Jews dying the holocaust because they were proud and egoists.
        Yet this training is a constant demonstration of self promotion, judgement towards others,

        Dao was made available at the same time as this version of Kabbalah – costs nothing to go through all levels of training, and never suggests that it is the only way to wisdom or peace – it accepts all the traditions.

        suffering should never be presented as avoidable.

        no one – not your leaders – no one lives without pains. You all have a responsibility to be aware of the seduction these programs have to people feeling fragile – and some are not able to not incorporate potentially dangerous self criticism and self loathing as less than the ideal you suggest is achievable if only willing.

        I am in a trajectory that may lead to death soon

        i I love Kabbalah and hoped for a shared deeper dive

        Thankfully I do not think I caused this illness   I know I am joining All that is

        I know no one gets a pass on this last great challenge

         

        I hope this helps you all think more clearly about ethics really showing and being a part of loving

         

        • #433159

          Maggie,
          You are right.
          There are many paths to the truth.
          Just like there is a different path for the beautiful leopard than there is another path in life for the majestic, giant blue whale and one path is not suitable for the other.  Within humanity there are many kinds of people some more sensitive, some not sensitive at all.  Some who feel eternity and others who feel only what their eyes can see and all of this together creates one whole creation which lacks nothing but the connection between all of those parts in adhesion with the Creator.
          From the side of the Creator who always was, is and will be, in Whom there is no change, no suffering.
          The kabbalists describe in their books that the only creation that the Creator created is a desire to receive all of His abundance.  And all of creation, all of our reality is only that desire developing (in what seems to our perception like time).
          Thank you for your insight and wishing you all good,
          Seth@KabU

      • #432098

        Maggie,
        You sound like a very intelligent person.
        We are students of the authentic wisdom of kabbalah, we are studying the books of the kabbalists, primarily the method of Baal HaSulam.
        Your response sounds more like a critique of the material and the method than a student’s question about the understanding and applying the material.
        If you study the material, you will understand and feel what is the core of kabbalah, which is to reach adhesion with the Creator, to bring the reality of love and connection into our lives.
        Seth@KabU

    • #431636
      Lorie
      Participant

      Hi Seth,

      I submitted a question, but somehow it did not commit. Anyhow, I found the answer in “Kabbalah Revealed” p.94.  Since I knew a bit of the name of the 10 sefirot I was a bit confused as to where were Hesed, Gevura, Tifferet, Netzah, Hod, and Yesod? I understand now that tese 6 sefirot are part of  Phase Three—Zeir Anpin.

      Next time I will complete the entire lesson including the suggested reading before asking a question 😊

      Also, your proposal to write a lexicon in order to get familiar and remember the meaning of the basic Kabbalah Hebrew words become a necessity at this point in the study. I realized that.

      Thank you for your time,

      • #431681

        Lorie,
        Happy to hear.
        Good luck and looking forward to hearing more good news.
        Seth@KabU

    • #431552
      Tracey
      Participant

      no questions at present

    • #431348
      Tracey
      Participant

      Wow love listening to this video, now I go away and take in what I have heard and my notes then rewatch I love it when something clicks inside me from confusion to comprehension.  Loving this

    • #428105
      Mike
      Participant

      So my question is this: is my apparent confusion due to a lack of understanding of the language of Kabbalah, or symbols, etc – meaning am I so confused by the language or that I am not ready or able to comprehend it? I feel, at the same time, very confused as some things appear to be very circular(i.e. contradictory or inconclusive?) – but yet clear on the overall structure of the concepts. Should I be concerned with being clear on all the language, or on feeling the sense of the concepts? On reading what I am writing I am thinking this may (hopefully)be a good example of “things are darkest just before the light”??

      • #428432

        Mike,

        Get used to being confused.
        Imagine that you get dropped off in Thailand and you don’t speak the language.  People walk and eat and drive, you are familiar with those things, but you can’t speak the language, or know the local customs, etc.
        It will take time to get acclimated.
        But here, you’re not getting dropped off in another country on Earth, you are learning about spiritual worlds, things that are not material, so it’s even more disorienting because in the material world two things happen on a time line, one thing before and then then next thing happens next.  In spirituality there is no time, so I thought you said this happened, but how could that also happen?!  This process of going in and out of understanding builds new sensations and new understandings in us.

        Anyway, make for yourself a glossary and write down the words you are learning and the definitions as you understand them.  I promise you for the next 20 years you will edit those definitions.
        Like the word love.  Imagine asking your 5 year old self for a definition, then refining the definition when you were 16 and when you got married and when you had your first child and then when your child got married and then when you are an old grandpa looking at your children and grandchildren, of course your definition of love will change as you change.  Love is love, but you changed.
        It’s not clear to everyone right away where the “work” is in the wisdom of kabbalah.  But you have some work here that you can do.
        Be persistent and stay inspired.
        Seth@KabU

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