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    Ask anything about week 4 lesson and materials and get an answer from a senior Kabbalah instructor.

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    • #319372
      Cristina
      Participant

      Thank you 😌🙏🏼

    • #319367
      Cristina
      Participant

      thank you 🙏🏼

    • #319303
      Andreanne
      Participant

      In this lesson we read about concealment and that brings to mind a recent conversation I had with a friend about this topic, in which the friend had said there’s no such thing as concealment, and this made me reflect to myself, that once we have seen and felt God, we’re even more astutely aware of His concealment, and we are left wanting to reach out, pray and plead, and desire ever more for His presence and to cleave on to Him. And we know that to be with Him is the ultimate pleasure, and ask how we can return to this state, and are left to wonder; Why have we been placed in a realm (a world/ a dimension) so far from Him!!?

      • #319403
        Cristina
        Participant

        We are him.

        there is only him

        there is nothing beside him

      • #319311

        Hi Andreanne,

        We were indeed created in the state of perfection, in complete adhesion with the Creator. (Baal HaSulam describes this in the article Introduction to the book of Zohar). But this was an unconscious state, like a baby in its mother’s womb. So we necessarily had to come to the complete opposite state, to lose that state of perfection, in order to once again reach it, but this time consciously.

        And the fact that we had to lose this state is not something bad, but it’s a necessary part of our development. It’s just like with kids. We don’t just give them a completed jigsaw puzzle. On the contrary we take it and break it down into many pieces. Then in the process of them putting it together, they grow and develop. Same with us, this process of losing that state is a necessary part of our further growth and development.

        This process also adds to us a certain level of freedom, without which, we would be no different than machines, or robots, that were programmed to act a certain way and they just carry out this inner script. Instead, we were programmed one way, and we rise above this inner programming, become independent of it, and then develop our own desire to advance towards this goal.

        Check out this blog post from Rav Laitman for more details: https://laitman.com/2014/01/from-perfection-to-perfection/

        Albert @ KabU

    • #319046
      Clara
      Participant

      What is ment by “period of incarnation”? Is ment that I am dad? And the reincarnation takes place in the same body? Or is every correction a kind of incarnation in the same body ment as “embodiment”?

    • #317730
      Scott
      Participant

      Are there any words of wisdom to keep a clearer mind?

      I’m believing that I’m in the Spiritual Vegetative state, but perhaps not. I feel the traits of that state taking place so deeply that it makes me physically ill as I want to proceed with success of achieving them. But, “Beginning to work with the desire to bestow” I feel is seriously lacking because I’m only seeing the opportunities to bestow after the moment passes and it’s too late. I’ve always been a “giver” in some way, but of course I understand more about true bestowal at this point.

      Thanks!

      Scott

      • #317748

        Hi Scott,

        We’re not yet on any spiritual degree, we’re still in the preparation period prior to the spiritual ladder. But once we start to do real spiritual work, we can measure our progress in our attitude towards other points in the hearts. That I’ll feel how my attitude towards them changes, from complete indifference, all the way until I feel them as pieces of my soul. We’ll learn more about this in the more advanced lessons.

        Albert @ KabU

        • #317754
          Scott
          Participant

          Ok thanks! That shows my ignorance of my own state haha. I guess I just felt like I was going through the explained phase for some reason

    • #316546
      Amirhossein
      Participant

      Hello
      As I have learned this far, all of progresses that you talk about in human evolution or spirituality and ego starts with still level and goes forward. However there is conflict in my mind about our decent from below upward that starts with speaking level and ends with still level. How this things matches?
      If I have misunderstood anything please let me know and thank you already for your answer

      • #316550

        Hi Amirhossein,

        I’m not sure where the confusion is. Our ascent follows the same order: from the still, to the vegetative, to the animate, to the speaking level. If it helps, look at it more as to levels of desires. We always start with the smallest desires (the still level) and work our way up to the bigger desires (the speaking level).

        Albert @ KabU

      • #316547
        Amirhossein
        Participant

        *correction: decent=ascent

        • #316552
          Amirhossein
          Participant

          If we ascent this way then everything is ok. I’m confused about how to match my pieces of informations.
          Once as I’ve noted from videos that the system of worlds and behinut are paired with this levels this way that malchut refers to speaking and keter to still. It seemed to me that we have to go this levels backwards in from below upward ascent.

        • #316596

          Hi Amirhossein,

          Keep in mind that these things are relative to the particular aspect of the desire that is being emphasized. So you might see a different order depending on what is being emphasized.

          In general though, we ascend from the still, to the vegetative, to the animate, and lastly to the speaking levels of desire. This follows the spiritual rule that our work goes “from light to heavy”. From the smallest desires to the biggest desires.

          Albert @ KabU

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