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VerenaParticipantHi Gianni, Thanks for the answer and for taking the time, answer…it’s helpful…now helpful. Actually I am not relating to a Rabash article, it was more about what we learned in YG about descents that kind of confused me. For one thing I feel that „crying out from the bottom of the heart“ is hard to grasp…. Not that I don’t know such states. But how do I know it’s the bottom? I might fool myself and still have some pride left …so my cry would be like a child crying for a lolly and not for real help from the creator. I understood that there is no use crying out if it’s not a REAL deficiency- like that child that cries for a lolly and the mother ignores it it…whereas when the child cries because it really fell, the mother is really there to help and comfort. So, how to be aware of whether it’s a lolly-cry or a real cry? And how to let it be a real cry, if it is a descent, without dwelling in this state for too long? Because to pass through the states quickly and not dwell there longer than necessary was the next thing I took from the lesson.
And the other thing, which I called „sharing the pain“ was just meant to describe what to do in a low state, a descent that causes a deficiency. (I just used the wrong words, sorry, I didn’t mean a self-help group) … My question relates to the contradiction of keeping low states away from the friends versus overcoming a descent „through the group, through the friends “, including admitting onès weakness and clinging on to the friends ( that’s what I heard in the YG). So, that’s the point… I feel the friends, I want to be there for them , it’s an uplifting and real connection… a descent may pull me away from the group… or to disturb the group…it might be a point to share it or to hide it. I understood it’s no point staying away from the group, and I found friends to be quite sensitive for each othersˋ state. In general, I would be intuitive in this and try to feel the friends and the connection and ask the creator to help me in this… is there any way I can be more precise about it? Or is it better to just ignore it and keep going? And how do I keep a 0.5/24 ratio?
VerenaParticipantHi Gianni, I have got a question about descents…
It says”The benefit from the rejections is that through them a person receives a complete need and desire for the Creator to help him since he sees that otherwise he is lost”
When I feel the pain of a descent, how do I know when it is completed and when it’s been “enough” of this state to receive a complete need? How do I even know it is a true descent and what if it appears to pull me away from the creator , but it is not so much a spiritual thing? Adding to this, how and when do I responsibly share such a state with the friends without abusing their care and help and without running away from the lecture I have to learn? I understand there is no point dwelling in any state, but what should be my attitude when I recognize it? Is this an individual thing… because some people can bear more discomfort or pain than others before they cry out and some people need longer to share their pain with friends than others and some open up about weaknesses more easily than others? I feel the group of friends is such a treasure, and the creator IS revealing in them… so how to balance this properly in order not to confuse the friends or the work, not to contaminate this environment unnecessarily with any struggles and at the same time allow real connection which asks openness?
VerenaParticipantHi Gianni, I have got a question about how to deal with the contrast of the abundance of light in spirituality, versus that darkness of corporeality. I am truly just a beginner, but I feel this contrast to be increasing so rapidly. How can I prepare myself to deal with this contrast? I feel the more light surrounds me, the harder it becomes to deal with the darkness … like when you are in a dark room, you can still see some shadowy shapes as your eyes adapt to the darkness. But with the contrast of light, the darkness appears even darker, the lack of light becomes tangible. Now, this would be easy if it was in equivalent measure, but it is so opposite the way life is designed.While Kabbalah shows all the light, the true internal reality, all happens technically in a virtual surrounding. As with corporeality, it is the other way round… it is giving such a limited and blurred version of existence, an illusion, but it is what surrounds me every day, what is tangible and perceivable with the 5 senses. How can I overcome this state of tension, and painful realisation of how contrasted spirituality versus corporeality are, while stile giving the needed credit to both?
VerenaParticipantHi Gianni,
Now, I have made this experiment of trying to be in the morning lesson for a week which is right in the night being in the CETtimezone. It was not do much a real experiment, I just felt the urge to be there. Still, I felt it made a huge internal difference, for each morning when I woke up after sleeping a few more hours, I felt this connection differently, but each time like there was just this other layer of existence I felt.. After one night it felt like being just immersed in an ocean of connection. After another night it just felt like a kind of shelter. I just observed it, and it even covered the effects of sleep deprivation to some degree. Now, today, I was probably too tired and simply didn’t hear the alarm clock. And when I woke up, this extra layer was simply not there. I don’t think it’s self-suggestion. I just observe it, and feel it’s different today. And interestingly, I didn’t even take much content from the morning lesson… I felt I was too tired to remember a lot. Still , it made such a profound difference. Different to the classes. And different to the ten, which is amazing in itself. Before I am changing all my routines… I wonder, can it be that the effect of this connection can be such at all?
VerenaParticipantHi Gianni, I have been wondering how we perceive the material we are reading. It seems like the revelation of the importance is not so much in the mind, but even that happens between us, in the ten. Or at least, when reading alone in the heart. Can it be like that?
Now, when a Kabbalist or a advanced student of Kabbalah is reading texts like in the Zohar, is it that the „sixth sense“, like that „Kabbalistic perception“ he is reading the words with, that gives meaning to them? To me reading this book is amazing, but of course, being just a beginner, it is like reading GPS coordinates, but not knowing what a GPS is. Itś a bit like pretending to read- I dońt mind, really, but I am wondering if that is how it works? So, all the descriptions about the upper worlds and its mechanisms need to be perceived with these other senses to make real sense , to navigate us through the unknown? And then, is it easier to read among the ten, because through that unity, that center of connection, these senses are become clearer. Or does this not matter? Does any of this make sense or is it a completely different mechanism that we need to develop?
VerenaParticipantThank you so much, Gianni. Then, does that mean, there is some reason in living in those meatsuits after all? So, it is not without purpose, it just doesńt really matter how the body/mind/heart trias has been assembled?
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