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Thank you so much for your patience and explanation. I will try and work with it. What is it that I need to gain to feel this is „safe enough“ to fully allow this work , and to not get scared because of the „human factor“ in it going unmeasured (and therefore seemingly uncontrolled)… faith?
Yes, I will if it matters for the group. It was just an example. It is more about the question how to make sure that in a spiritual society or group such very strong sentences as „you have to go above this“ or „this is just the ego“ are used correctly. Basically, I can turn everything into either direction- spiritual or corporeal, and using such comments, may be helpful to get to deeper scrutiny or may be misleading if they cover up corporeal intentions. Now, I probably would bring doubts that keep me from learning to the ten, that is for sure. But what should be our measurement? If we wanted to, we could justify anything with „love your friends, even if they hate you“ ( It didńt happen yet, but it was the weeks`s topic). Is there any measurement for this part of the work? As said we could justify anything with these sentences, which is why I am trying not to use them too much. Itś like an eletric screwdriver in the hands of a 3-year-old…. I dońt want to accidently poke it into my eyes, and go blinded… So , how to use that wisely? Which measurement do we need to apply for the corporeal part that we always bring in the spiritual work, too?
Hi Gianni, there are places when corporeal matters and spiritual matters intertwine, such as a classes, YG or ten. How to make sure that one is not used as an excuse for the other? Take gender issues. When for example it’s not about complementing but seemingly favoring one gender over the other… it’s easy to excuse such impressions by saying „that is just the ego and you have to go above that“ Still, there may be a corporeal dysbalance and injustice actually happening…and if I would shy away from naming this and from asking a dialogue, only because I am afraid to be called an egoist, I feel it might cause more harm than good. In fact it might even shut my mouth if I come to witness abusive behavior (I didn’t yet, but I feel there is a risk, because we are all humans). What to do then? Take it in, because we shall love the friends even if they hate us? Or ask and try to clarify? And what if it includes some hierarchy?
Hi Gianni, I just want to ask if I understood correctly: Is it like we may „use“ our corporeality (like having an encouraging smile..) to enhance spiritual growths for the friends, and we may consider corporeality in that we care about our friends if their corporeality throws obstacles on their path, that consume them internally to a degree that it gets into the way of spirituality? And that it is not asking regularly checking-in, itś about the relevance this corporeal state has for the friends`spirituality, and thus the ten, best adressed once only (unless the state gains new importance/ urgency)? And when we calculate whether to discern any states in the ten, it should equally be this internal calculation- what will be „in it“ in terms of spiritual development for the friends and is this something that really needs the friends, that really is so occupying that it hinders connection?
Sorry , Gianni, I had hoped there would not be any more questions for the next few weeks. But then I listened to the morning lesson, and I re-read what you had been answering yesterday, and I thought about the ten, and about how to start off. What really struck me, was , being still at this „amoeba level“, right at the beginning, how can we truly start working in a ten? Now, if there was an experienced ten, and they wanted to advance, they would probably meet at the desire to love of friends. And even then I suppose it would ask overcoming of the will to receive in form of frustration, anger, ambition or whatever else might be in the way. But at the beginning, many will naturally probably be still so concerned with this change. Itś like when you arrive at a holiday place or you have just moved… and you feel like you have to arrange everything, claim the baggage, make sure things are settled into place, trying to find orientation in this new surrounding. I feel, at this state, even when trying, it seems almost impossible to overcome that natural egoism. So, what do we have to agree on? Naturally, there are so many motifs, but most of them lead back to the amoeba state – The wish to change oneself, Curiosity, Ambition, The wish to connect for onself – Any of this will just be „amoebic“… trying to incorporate the others for oneś own sake. So, is it like we simply have to accept that, ignore it more or less, and aim our actions towards the others first, and hope that mind and heart will follow (otherwise I dońt see how we can get out of this natural egoism in this beginning phase). It truly reminds me more of a psychological trick, like one that would be used for depression, when you ask a depressed and isolated person to still go outside, meet others, excert social contacts, because otherwise there will be no fuel to combat that battered heart and that neurochemical imbalance. It works often enough, but people are right to say, it is still a trick. But do we use such tricks in Kabbalah? To trick our minds and hearts through our actions? Or is it the other way around, that we simply have to learn to form a proper intention, and whatever we do in this virtual world, it needs to be carried by this intention, and if we dońt have that, we will remain a singled out amoeba trying to eat up everything that is around it and it is better to remain very careful with our movements or reamins still even, until we really feel the right intention (or what we can perceive as such in this state)?
